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Post by glynnsixo on Feb 13, 2016 16:24:21 GMT
while touching on this subject in another post it got me thinking of an article in one of the mags, which was written by nick craig the pro cx and mtbxc rider. he went on to say that the best way to improve climbing fitness is to just climb at your own comfortable pace and the more you do this the more you will improve. as opposed to pushing yourself really hard when perhaps trying to continuously keep up with faster riders.
i always thought, that this sounded odd as surely pushing yourself would be the BEST way to improve? but who am i to argue against a pro's advice.
then while watching the bike channel this afternoon, on 'the greatest climbs' the two roadies talking about the same subject basically repeated the exact same advice as nick craig.............definately worth remembering this i think.
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Post by marsbarman on Feb 13, 2016 17:26:11 GMT
Things never get easier, you just get faster.
Your body will get used to it, so you'll push yourself a little harder to get that same feeling, rinse and repeat.
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Post by notsarkyadam on Feb 13, 2016 17:33:30 GMT
I refuse to go fast up hills!...
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Post by roundie1981 on Feb 13, 2016 17:54:43 GMT
I refuse to go fast up hills!... Amen to that!! |
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Post by macky on Feb 13, 2016 18:02:41 GMT
People get to hung up on fitness, just go out there and ride your bikes, at the end of the day if you are smiling you'll do it again the week after, etc, etc, the fitness side will just coming naturally, it's the grin factor that will make it memorable.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 18:57:58 GMT
Music to my fat ears  |
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Post by Marmite on Feb 13, 2016 21:51:57 GMT
Hmmm .. Intresting .. I always plodded along could not go any faster up hills I would see jay sarky will hill all disappear in to the distance , best thing I did was drop some weight .. Oh and keep cycling  Ride once a week it's good for you Ride twice a week it's even better for you Ride three times a week and your defo going to improve .. But not just about miles it's about how you ride them .. I try endurance miles on one or two rides a week .. Trying to keep your heart rate at around 130... Not as easy as it sounds as soon as you see a hill it wants to go though the roof  One day I try and do thresh hold spinning as fast as you can for 5 min intervals and keeping your heart rate at about 160 .. Laxtice acid builds up just after that .. Great for helping you to burst speed when and tetchy climbs and you need to spin fast for short bursts .. Any way I'm talking bollocks but nothing new Enjoy you're riding keep a smile on your face |
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Post by Mediocore on Feb 13, 2016 22:17:26 GMT
I think the advice is based around the fact if you go riding all the time with people who are faster up the hills then you will get disheartened and it will, in time, put you off.
It did for me any ways, for quite a while I went out with my mates and could never ride as much as they did. They were rocking two 2000ft+ rides a week, plus some road miles and it was always going to end up an exercise in ass kicking. Which put me off and as a result I didn't ride as much. There is only so many times you can watch your mates do one up a hill, and be ready to set off again at the top the second you haul your self up before you loose interest.
If it's any help I found the strava climbing challenge helped, I did the on last month and have actually noticed an improvement in my climbing. I still cough my guts up and want to die, but slightly faster than previously. And I don't get left behind anymore which is nice
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Post by hodgy on Feb 14, 2016 7:50:04 GMT
...or join a group of owld farts like our group ..average age well over 55 and feel good as you pass us by ...lol..
Mind you that's not totally true as Russell will destroy most of what's put in front of him !
A lot has to do with how much you put into it ...
Personally I'm happy in my own skin ..there are loads of riders out there who's fitness levels I'm not going to get anywhere near partly due to health issues ..but no problem just keep on riding over that hill ..you can have my admiration but not my company ...
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Post by Marmite on Feb 14, 2016 8:48:11 GMT
...or join a group of owld farts like our group ..average age well over 55 and feel good as you pass us by ...lol.. Mind you that's not totally true as Russell will destroy most of what's put in front of him ! A lot has to do with how much you put into it ... Personally I'm happy in my own skin ..there are loads of riders out there who's fitness levels I'm not going to get anywhere near partly due to health issues ..but no problem just keep on riding over that hill ..you can have my admiration but not my company ... Yeah Russel is one of them mountain goats like manf and Gaz windy... i just watch them fly off up the hills ... Was funny yesterday me and Duncan riding up that bitch fking b..... Hill horrible long drag and then you turn a corner and it Carrys on .. Heart in you're mouth blowing out your arse .. We was shouting some naughty works to keep us going and was a great satisfaction to clear it ( even when John gets his camera out saying slow down my camera has not booted up ) John buy a new camera ffs I was going slower than walking pace hahha |
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Post by windysurfer on Feb 14, 2016 15:21:36 GMT
People get to hung up on fitness, just go out there and ride your bikes, at the end of the day if you are smiling you'll do it again the week after, etc, etc, the fitness side will just coming naturally, it's the grin factor that will make it memorable. bang on...less thinking more pedaling  |
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Post by glynnsixo on Feb 14, 2016 15:36:13 GMT
that was my point. just keep pedaling away at a steady pace and your fitness will improve without thinking much about it.what a brilliant way of keeping fit this mtb milarky.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 19:27:57 GMT
I think the advice is based around the fact if you go riding all the time with people who are faster up the hills then you will get disheartened and it will, in time, put you off. It did for me any ways, for quite a while I went out with my mates and could never ride as much as they did. They were rocking two 2000ft+ rides a week, plus some road miles and it was always going to end up an exercise in ass kicking. Which put me off and as a result I didn't ride as much. There is only so many times you can watch your mates do one up a hill, and be ready to set off again at the top the second you haul your self up before you loose interest. If it's any help I found the strava climbing challenge helped, I did the on last month and have actually noticed an improvement in my climbing. I still cough my guts up and want to die, but slightly faster than previously. And I don't get left behind anymore which is nice This - all day long. The thing is you have to enjoy it. I've got some great mates who I'd love to ride with regularly but I can't as they are so in front me fitness wise it's painful - so I tend to ride alone or with other lads who are at my level. It's no good getting disheartened - sometimes you have to accept where you are and then at least you can enjoy your riding. Be happy in your own skin is right - especially as you are cresting above and beyond 50. IMO, loike. |
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Post by Rlo80 on Feb 14, 2016 19:58:06 GMT
Squatting at the gym...and ridding as much as possible...that is what improves climbing...enough said!? lol
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Post by Marmite on Feb 14, 2016 21:06:48 GMT
that was my point. just keep pedaling away at a steady pace and your fitness will improve without thinking much about it.what a brilliant way of keeping fit this mtb milarky. But you're still a mountain goat so you've got nothing to worry about .. I remmber a chat me and will had about you , on one our peaks rides a year or two ago .. We both said we would never ride with you as your pics and posts scared the shit out of us lol But glad I did as your a top bloke and a cracking rider  But still a mountain goat up hills lol |
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Post by rossco832 on Feb 14, 2016 21:09:54 GMT
I think the advice is based around the fact if you go riding all the time with people who are faster up the hills then you will get disheartened and it will, in time, put you off. It did for me any ways, for quite a while I went out with my mates and could never ride as much as they did. They were rocking two 2000ft+ rides a week, plus some road miles and it was always going to end up an exercise in ass kicking. Which put me off and as a result I didn't ride as much. There is only so many times you can watch your mates do one up a hill, and be ready to set off again at the top the second you haul your self up before you loose interest. If it's any help I found the strava climbing challenge helped, I did the on last month and have actually noticed an improvement in my climbing. I still cough my guts up and want to die, but slightly faster than previously. And I don't get left behind anymore which is nice This - all day long. The thing is you have to enjoy it. I've got some great mates who I'd love to ride with regularly but I can't as they are so in front me fitness wise it's painful - so I tend to ride alone or with other lads who are at my level. It's no good getting disheartened - sometimes you have to accept where you are and then at least you can enjoy your riding. Be happy in your own skin is right - especially as you are cresting above and beyond 50. IMO, loike. Totally agree with this. I have stopped riding with my brother... He was flying up climbs and I was busting a gut trying to keep up and feeling deflated when I got there. Really stopped enjoying it. Was really round about the time we were all on about having a slump |
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Post by Mediocore on Feb 14, 2016 21:34:18 GMT
I think the advice is based around the fact if you go riding all the time with people who are faster up the hills then you will get disheartened and it will, in time, put you off. It did for me any ways, for quite a while I went out with my mates and could never ride as much as they did. They were rocking two 2000ft+ rides a week, plus some road miles and it was always going to end up an exercise in ass kicking. Which put me off and as a result I didn't ride as much. There is only so many times you can watch your mates do one up a hill, and be ready to set off again at the top the second you haul your self up before you loose interest. If it's any help I found the strava climbing challenge helped, I did the on last month and have actually noticed an improvement in my climbing. I still cough my guts up and want to die, but slightly faster than previously. And I don't get left behind anymore which is nice This - all day long. The thing is you have to enjoy it. I've got some great mates who I'd love to ride with regularly but I can't as they are so in front me fitness wise it's painful - so I tend to ride alone or with other lads who are at my level. It's no good getting disheartened - sometimes you have to accept where you are and then at least you can enjoy your riding. Be happy in your own skin is right - especially as you are cresting above and beyond 50. IMO, loike. There was some pay back with my tale, the main reason I didn't ride as much was because I had just had a kid. Any ways now he is older, I get more time and they have all just had kids. So I am the one riding bikes more, it's quite fun |
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Post by glynnsixo on Feb 15, 2016 0:03:21 GMT
Thanks for the compliments gaz but im not mountain goat compared to some other riders, windy and manf, your regular riding buddies leave me standing. As i always say everythings relative. And i now think that your overtaking me on the fitness front, youve come on so much recently.........and good on yer!!. Iv said many times that iv looked back at trails iv been daunted by in the past and now wonder what the fuss was about. Its all a progresion
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Post by windysurfer on Feb 15, 2016 12:04:26 GMT
I don't class myself as a "mountain goat" (but I do enjoy climbing) and ride with others who regular leave me standing up hills, Manf being one of them |
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