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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 14:43:38 GMT
I think Nelly's right. When I shortened the Deores the original olives were a totally squashed mess compared to the new ones I put in.
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Post by barffy on Jan 6, 2015 14:44:09 GMT
Yep, I think Nelly is right iI had the same experience with Shimano shortening. Olive is a one time use thing as it gets crushed as its tightened.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 14:44:29 GMT
AAAh I see - I had it in my head you were shortening the hoses....as you were....  |
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Post by Killswitch73 on Jan 6, 2015 14:45:38 GMT
I think Nelly's right. When I shortened the Deores the original olives were a totally squashed mess compared to the new ones I put in. But im not shortneing the hoses . yes i would need to put new olives on if i had to shorten them but so far they are fine . |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 14:46:58 GMT
I'm not sure what difference it makes if he's shortening the hoses or not.. If the olive has been compressed, it should be replaced by a new one if taken out!?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 14:52:45 GMT
I'm not sure what difference it makes if he's shortening the hoses or not.. If the olive has been compressed, it should be replaced by a new one if taken out!? Dammit young 'uns right for once! my head was hurting then I was confused. I'd replace any olive I must admit, for the cost of a few pence it's better than having a potential leak or air ingress - you'd have to do it all again then if you were unlucky. |
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Post by Killswitch73 on Jan 6, 2015 14:53:09 GMT
I'm not sure what difference it makes if he's shortening the hoses or not.. If the olive has been compressed, it should be replaced by a new one if taken out!? 2 bikes shops told me i didnt have too . as im not cutting the hose . AND THEY WORK FINE !! no fluid pissing anywhere ..bled good and very good stopping power and loads better than my orignal XT levers and at hald the weight too. |
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Post by Killswitch73 on Jan 6, 2015 14:54:47 GMT
i have 2 spare olives i will redo them LOL just to be safe . cus you all got me paranoid now lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 14:57:04 GMT
To be fair, I've not got a clue. I was just saying how I interpreted what Nelly said.
I've never messed with Shimano brakes..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 15:00:23 GMT
I've never replaced a lever, just thought it'd be safe to change em. If the LBS says don't bother then ignore us. Most people do anyway. |
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Post by Killswitch73 on Jan 6, 2015 15:01:31 GMT
  and my bike needs a good clean .. I know ..went out on it at 4am this morning across a field lol testing the gears and brakes . |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 15:02:54 GMT
I like the XTR brakes - proper stealthy them.
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Post by Killswitch73 on Jan 6, 2015 15:03:18 GMT
I've never replaced a lever, just thought it'd be safe to change em. If the LBS says don't bother then ignore us. Most people do anyway. nah its sound bud . im appreciating the help . and im going to re do them to make sure . i got some spare olives . |
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Post by Killswitch73 on Jan 6, 2015 15:05:19 GMT
I like the XTR brakes - proper stealthy them. yea i was surprised when i got them , as i thought i was getting silver according to chain reaction . but looks stunning in that gun metal grey colour .. they are so light its unreal . |
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Post by Nelly on Jan 6, 2015 15:10:56 GMT
you sure about that, pretty sure you are supposed to use new barbs and olives each time, I did when shortening my zee's and my mate did when shortening his XT's the olive is designed to deform a little when you torque it up but im not cutting and they are both WORKING fine !! the olive goes on the outside of the hose, little brass bit and is crushed between the lever and nut on the hose to prevent leaks. changing lever means you need a new olive as the old one will be deformed to the shape of the old lever and the exact position it was in you should slide a new olive over the hose before you tighten it, for sake of a few pence put new olives in |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 15:23:04 GMT
Your bike reminds me of Triggers broom.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 15:31:11 GMT
Your bike reminds me of Triggers broom. Ha Ha classic!  |
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Post by roundie1981 on Jan 6, 2015 15:38:07 GMT
but im not cutting and they are both WORKING fine !! the olive goes on the outside of the hose, little brass bit and is crushed between the lever and nut on the hose to prevent leaks. changing lever means you need a new olive as the old one will be deformed to the shape of the old lever and the exact position it was in you should slide a new olive over the hose before you tighten it, for sake of a few pence put new olives in Only bit you can reuse is the insert that goes into the end of the hose, I wouldnt chance using an old olive. Could end rather nasty!! |
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Post by notsarkyadam on Jan 6, 2015 17:54:32 GMT
I'm not sure what difference it makes if he's shortening the hoses or not.. If the olive has been compressed, it should be replaced by a new one if taken out!? Common sense isn't it?.. |
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