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Post by duke on May 19, 2015 8:20:05 GMT
Ok so I'm mega disappointed with myself, on sunday I had a full day at greno on the new bike, after a few adjustmens on the bars, brakes and suspension I felt amazing going down the trails nice and fast, smooth and very confident, clearing the table tops on steel city run, great I thought. Then it came to the gap jump on the steel city track, I just couldn't over come this mind block, I could do every other jump on that track apart from the bloody gap jump, my mate was with me, the first time he had been there and tried it the first time and cleared it. I must have had 15 run ups to it and still didn't even attempt it!
Id pedal to get speed, but as soon as I got to the bottom of the jump my fingers would automatically pull the rear brake, its as though I couldn't stop them! grrr... I know I could do It easily, theres two factors in this, one is I wasn't sure if I had enough speed and second is how the jump would feel, If it felt different I would be coming off the bike for sure, my mate and a few lads we saw on sunday they said you don't need to pump on the jump, but I like to pump I don't really know how to jump especially a gap jump without pumping, how do you just ride a jump and get air, I cant get that concept into my head.
Anyway how do you over come a bloody mind block because I just want to do it, I feel great on the bike, just don't feel great about the jump obviously! Its same with the drop into the bomb hole, my body wont allow me to do it!
Its holding me back, I know I need to do these two sections to progress but at the moment im stuck at it and until I do this, I aint going to get any faster and more confident!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 9:08:53 GMT
Don't worry about it - just enjoy your riding. I've accepted I'm shit at jumping and I can live with it. Life's too short to be stressing dude  |
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Post by hodgy on May 19, 2015 9:40:22 GMT
I'm in no position to offer advice on this really ..when I first started mountain biking I used to look for any excuse to try ( admittedly ) small jumps ..and this on a fully rigid Gary Fisher Yahoo ...with the passage of time , a few nasty offs ..no broken bones but lots of shred skin ..family to think of and self employment..there is way too much going on in my own mind to release me from my own reasons not to tackle jumps ...
I do intend at some stage though to go on a course to see if a little tuition can release me from my shackles ...
Maybe this could be an option for yourself ?
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Post by duke on May 19, 2015 9:53:35 GMT
I'm in no position to offer advice on this really ..when I first started mountain biking I used to look for any excuse to try ( admittedly ) small jumps ..and this on a fully rigid Gary Fisher Yahoo ...with the passage of time , a few nasty offs ..no broken bones but lots of shred skin ..family to think of and self employment..there is way too much going on in my own mind to release me from my own reasons not to tackle jumps ... I do intend at some stage though to go on a course to see if a little tuition can release me from my shackles ... Maybe this could be an option for yourself ? I have considered tuition mate, I may have to, to try and get over it, again like yourself, I have income and supporting a family to think about oh and a brand new bike I didn't want to wreck on my first proper ride on it! I'm sure when I do it once ill do it again and again.
Im going back tonight so I'm going to attempt it, bugger it. I've pre warned the wife. 
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Post by Nelly on May 19, 2015 10:01:08 GMT
I was the same at the blind approach steep drop into fast track at wharny, took around 20 run ups and in the end thought fuck it im being a pusy, got a good rolling speed, took my fingers off the breaks and just did it
although I am probably the worst at advice on this sort of thing as after my 2 crashes last year I have ridden like a pussy for the last 6 months and have decided to sell all my stuff lol
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Post by duke on May 19, 2015 10:10:40 GMT
I was the same at the blind approach steep drop into fast track at wharny, took around 20 run ups and in the end thought fuck it im being a pusy, got a good rolling speed, took my fingers off the breaks and just did it although I am probably the worst at advice on this sort of thing as after my 2 crashes last year I have ridden like a pussy for the last 6 months and have decided to sell all my stuff lol I'm being a big pussy mate, lad I was riding with made that clear lol! Sad to see you selling up mate, family first though ey, doesn't help you living in the flattest part of the UK! Do you think you will be back on an MTB? Or just sticking with road? |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 10:11:50 GMT
There is no doubt that a really good off ending in breaking bones is a bit of a reality check. Since cracking a couple of ribs last year I suddenly don't think being able to jump is such a 'biggie' anymore.
It hurt like nothing I've ever experienced and I've given birth to two lads! *
*last bit is a lie.
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Post by duke on May 19, 2015 10:20:00 GMT
There is no doubt that a really good off ending in breaking bones is a bit of a reality check. Since cracking a couple of ribs last year I suddenly don't think being able to jump is such a 'biggie' anymore. It hurt like nothing I've ever experienced and I've given birth to two lads! * * last bit is a lie.Haha I had to look twice at your picture t make sure I was seeing a man. Thanks for the confidence inspiring words mate lol! I can jump, infact I love to jump. I can do gap jumps its just this one and I don't know why, maybe its because the landing is blind until you are actually going up the jump! |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 10:23:45 GMT
Sure you'll crack it - it's like anything, do it once and you'll wonder why the feck you were worried - first time is always the hardest, but you'll be buzzing when you do crack it. Good luck.
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Post by timbo on May 19, 2015 12:36:32 GMT
Follow someone else over it? Visualise yourself doing it, nice and limber on take off, getting into the landing, etc.
Failing that just go slow, front wheel high, hang up brutally so you can at least get the feel of the lip and hit it like a man next time.
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Post by duke on May 19, 2015 20:15:56 GMT
I went and....
I still didn't f*cking do it!!!
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Post by jgmu97 on May 19, 2015 21:24:05 GMT
I know the feeling... After not riding much this year, a few new trails have came around, and i have seem to have lost some of my skill and confidence i had built up last year!
There's this nice step down with a large gap in between thats been built... If you dont get enough air, your front wheel is going to hit it and you're going to be using your face as brakes. After a few run ins, i just thought fuck it. Pedaled in like fuck and just hung the bike in the air until i knew i was over and then slamed it into the landing. Wasnt the smoothest, but after your first clear, its fine after
There's plenty of jumps which i've yet to do, mainly because they're fucking huge and vertical like DJ stuff, and out in the middle of no where. Im sure if i was riding with a mate, i'd probably have a crack, but its too risky on my own. I still stack it on the small shit, like my video i posted on here the other week.
I'm sure with time, you will be able to do it. Its not going to go anywhere, so only take it when you're confident. Dont let it get to you too much though, otherwise you will literally be shitting it everytime and those 'dick fingers' will be pulling the brake levers every time!
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Post by barffy on May 20, 2015 6:13:49 GMT
Following someone makes it worse for me. I always end up getting too close when following to match their speed so I end up grabbing the brake. I'm best at doing new stuff if I watch others and then go it alone. Stop looking at it, it only makes it worse. If you've spent more than a few minutes looking you won't be in the right mind set and shouldn't do it.
Is your mate as good of a rider as you? If you are of a similar skill set if he can do it you can too. Just go and smash it!
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Post by duke on May 20, 2015 8:18:05 GMT
yeah my mate is the same level of rider that's why we ride together all the time, he just has bigger balls than me! I think like you say im spending too long looking at it. He did the jump 3 times last night and cased it every time and he got a pinch flat. I was following him down and seeing that he only just makes it just made me think I really shouldn't be using him as the pace guy as he's clearly not going fast enough. He says you don't have to pump the jump but I've never ridden a jump and not pumped, problem is the jump is a bit more mellow and if I pump I may just f*ck it up completely as there's nothing much to pump and the lip of the jump, to me, seems non existent!
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 8:30:40 GMT
All sounds very technical to me - I'm out!
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Post by duke on May 20, 2015 9:02:35 GMT
I make it sound more technical than it probably is, I'm just going to ride the trails and hit it when I feel right on the run up instead of walking up the trail a bit and getting a pedal on to get up to speed just to hit this jump, so much time was wasted yesterday on it! I'm only wanting to hit it to make up time on the trail!
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Post by Admin on May 20, 2015 10:15:44 GMT
I don't know the area but how much damage you going to do to yourself if you get it wrong? How wide is the gap? I still get a bit of mind block, it's only natural, when at Fort William last yer I was always dragging the brakes and slowing down too much so I'd have to take the chicken line for the jumps anyway, the more runs I done the more I got annoyed calling myself all the names under the sun when I eventually I just manned up kept off the brakes and pedalled like fook and went for it, after doing the first one I though to myself what all the fuss was about .
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Post by mattyeti on May 20, 2015 12:05:55 GMT
Timbo said earlier about visualising yourself doin the jump and I 100% agree.the only way you will do it, is running up 100% confident that you will make it. Anyone riding 50/50 or even moreso is going to pull the brakes on and stop as you have been doin mate, or just hit it not quite committed. And I don't know about you but I used to ride things that bit slower thinking "well if I do come off it won't hurt as much" WRONG speed is your friend , since upping my speed and riding with confidence I can hit things much better. . As for the particular gap jump at Grenoside I'm not just saying this but it really is easy , especially since they smoothed out the run up. Infact I overshot the landing the first time I rode it since the rework as it's so easy to get speed up on it now....
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Post by mattyeti on May 20, 2015 12:17:50 GMT
Gap in question  |
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Post by duke on May 20, 2015 12:29:19 GMT
Gap in question Yep that's the one! Ok so matt, as a guy who has hit it and cleared it properly! What does the take off feel like, I love the table tops as there seems to be something to pump and theres and actual lip, this I cant figure out how I would ride it? |
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Post by mattyeti on May 20, 2015 12:46:47 GMT
Just ride it as you ride the rest of the track mate. Look at the lip as soon as you see it then pedal into it, change your view then to beyond the gap, as that's where you want to be. don't give yourself the option of stopping. I still pump on the take off and if your mate isn't that's probably why he's casing the landing. It will feel like it's sending you higher than the tables but that's good as it helps you clear the distance. . Just relax and know you will make it, especially if your clearing the tables no problem. .. you can do it !!!  |
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Post by duke on May 20, 2015 12:57:37 GMT
Just ride it as you ride the rest of the track mate. Look at the lip as soon as you see it then pedal into it, change your view then to beyond the gap, as that's where you want to be. don't give yourself the option of stopping. I still pump on the take off and if your mate isn't that's probably why he's casing the landing. It will feel like it's sending you higher than the tables but that's good as it helps you clear the distance. . Just relax and know you will make it, especially if your clearing the tables no problem. .. you can do it !!! Cheers for that mate, I knew he should have been pumping at leased a bit, he just literally rides it out! ill just set off to ride the track and hit it when I feel good about it. I'm off there next week anyway so hopefully that's the day! |
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Post by mattyeti on May 20, 2015 13:01:43 GMT
It'll definitely feel better doing it as part of a full run as you will be carrying your momentum From the top.
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Post by duke on May 20, 2015 13:22:49 GMT
It'll definitely feel better doing it as part of a full run as you will be carrying your momentum From the top. I agree, plus by the time I'm at the gap jump I'm into a nice rhythm, in tune with the trail. |
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Post by Admin on May 20, 2015 13:57:50 GMT
Now we will expect your next post to be "I've done it and I cant believe what all the worry was about"
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