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Post by andy4d on Jan 22, 2016 21:41:52 GMT
right, managed to get nearly 3 years out of my original shimano chain and cassette so feel it would benefit from being renewed. This is where the upgrade fever kicked in. It started with a £44 chain/cassette, then I thought I might as well go the whole hog and finally ditch the 3x10 and go 2x10 (I am soooo last year I know  ) but there was no point ditching a new groupset so I waited until I got some use out it first. Priced up various groupsets but feel I am best getting seperates to get what I fancy. so this is the plan, feel free to give opinions.. CURRENT NEW3x10 Shimano M522 42/32/24 Crank £62 SLX 38/26 (was going to get 38/24 but the 38/26 is cheaper and I will just MTFU if needed. I can always buy a 24 chain ring later) standard 11-36 cassette £44 XT 11-36 incl chain front derailleur deore m590 £10 XT m785 rear derailleur m781 xt shadow Keeping, but getting new jockey wheels £10 (why not...  ) shifters deore m591 £40 XT m780 i-spec (incl cables) brakes m395 £74 SLX I-spec (if getting new shifters might as well go the whole hog ). TOTAL £230 For full SLX/XT groupset. I feel this gets me the best bang for my buck. Am I missing anything ? (I need to buy a hollow tech BB tool aswell) |
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Post by roundie1981 on Jan 22, 2016 22:01:48 GMT
Don't know if your interested but I've got an SLX 11-36 casette, had about 10 rides on it before buying an XT so I could fit an expander.
Ispec b 2/3 x10 XT shifters
And possibly if I remember rightly an XT front mech
Could do you them for a decent price if your interested, they're just sat in my spares box in the garage.
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Post by kirky72 on Jan 22, 2016 22:30:57 GMT
Andy you aren't buying a new crank set are you, if you are just changing the chain rings then I have a brand new 38 24 taken from an xt crank set. You can have for £15.
Also have a new xt cassette unpackaged and fitted but then removed again not actually ridden. £28.
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Post by andy4d on Jan 22, 2016 22:42:24 GMT
Roundie I would be, but as I live in Ireland now the postage would be a bit on the steep side. Last time I got my folks to post something from the UK with a bit of size/weight to it,it was £15-£20, and being in euro land it would add another issue so probably not worth while. Thanks for the offer though.
Living in Ireland can be a killer as a lot of the deals you guys can get I am unable to get due to P+P so I have to look for companies that do free/cheap P+P.
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Post by andy4d on Jan 22, 2016 22:46:13 GMT
Andy you aren't buying a new crank set are you, if you are just changing the chain rings then I have a brand new 38 24 taken from an xt crank set. You can have for £15. Also have a new xt cassette unpackaged and fitted but then removed again not actually ridden. £28. Yep Kirky I am going for a new crankset. Again another great deal I have to turn down, as above. At this rate it will be cheaper for me to jump on a ryanair plane over and pick up these offers  . |
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Post by roundie1981 on Jan 22, 2016 22:57:50 GMT
No problem mate, didn't realise you were in Ireland.
Have you looked on bikediscount.de? Not sure about postage but they're good on prices
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Post by kirky72 on Jan 22, 2016 23:01:33 GMT
I'm sure I can post anything up to 10kg for £5 through work.
Why are you replacing a 3 ring slx crank set with a 2 ring slx crank set. Isn't it the same thing minus the middle ring? I would just get some new rings and keep your old crank unless it's knackered but unusual for them to wear at the same rate as your chain.
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Post by andy4d on Jan 22, 2016 23:10:00 GMT
I'm sure I can post anything up to 10kg for £5 through work. Why are you replacing a 3 ring slx crank set with a 2 ring slx crank set. Isn't it the same thing minus the middle ring? I would just get some new rings and keep your old crank unless it's knackered but unusual for them to wear at the same rate as your chain. The crank I have is an Octalink 3x10 hence the change to the SLX hollowtech. Roundie I use Bike-discount a bit and I am getting the cassette/chain from them. |
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Post by Rlo80 on Jan 23, 2016 12:36:54 GMT
Pinkbike is also a great place to look for good deals on parts…sometimes from Ireland anyway.
My first bike had 3x10…second 2x10 and i thought it was a great change since the granny was immaculate and unused. Have you even considered going 1x10 or 1x11?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 13:26:33 GMT
Think you are missing a trick going 2x10 and not 1x11. 1x11 can be had for about 140 quid off CRC too. I'm currently saving for it myself.
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Post by andy4d on Jan 25, 2016 14:22:41 GMT
I know what you are saying about 1x11 but I feel (in my head) that 2x10 will suit me better for now given the riding I do and the bike its going on. I am due a new bike hopefully next year (bike to work is up then) so think I will wait for 1x11 and see what trickles down over the next 18 months.
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Post by Rlo80 on Jan 26, 2016 20:29:24 GMT
I know what you are saying about 1x11 but I feel (in my head) that 2x10 will suit me better for now given the riding I do and the bike its going on. I am due a new bike hopefully next year (bike to work is up then) so think I will wait for 1x11 and see what trickles down over the next 18 months. It's all about ratios as I quickly learnt here...and usually by going 1x11 you only lose the low end gears...unless you like to go fast and need those strong gears, (XC racing, commuting maybe) you will be fine with 1x11. |
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Post by andy4d on Jan 26, 2016 21:02:37 GMT
I know what you are saying about 1x11 but I feel (in my head) that 2x10 will suit me better for now given the riding I do and the bike its going on. I am due a new bike hopefully next year (bike to work is up then) so think I will wait for 1x11 and see what trickles down over the next 18 months. It's all about ratios as I quickly learnt here...and usually by going 1x11 you only lose the low end gears...unless you like to go fast and need those strong gears, (XC racing, commuting maybe) you will be fine with 1x11. Totally agree with you, but I have a mental block dropping from a triple ring to single and 1x11 would cost me more than my wife is letting me budget is. I am never one to jump on the band wagon, much more likely to be at the tail end of technology, picking up a bargain as its about to be changed for the "new and improved" version (typical Scot). Not that long ago 2x10 was where it was at. Now everyone is saying 1x11. After a bit of reading on the subject I feel gears are a bit like the wheel size debate was a few years ago. Lots of people rate 1x11 and some feel its a bit too much, squeezing another gear into a space that was 9 then 10 cogs. Whats next? I believe its the new BOOST standard thats coming our way. I am happy to wait a bit to see how it all settles and pick up a bargain 1x11 when 1x12 comes in. I have a wee bit of cash to spend for my birthday and feel the 3x10 I have is way to many gears as I only use a few of them, so fancy trying a bit of kit that is better than the basic deore I have without breaking the bank, hence the 2x10 xt/slx kit. If dont like it I can always go 1x11 when I wear the 2x10 out (but I reckon I will have a new bike long before that). At the end of the day I will still be riding and smiling no matter how many gears I have.  |
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Post by Rlo80 on Jan 26, 2016 22:06:32 GMT
Ok mate...I was a bit reluctant like you until I bought a frame that don't that front mech and believe me...you will get the 2x10 and then wished you had gone 1x11 the same way you want to go 2x10 now... in fact when you understand the ratios and compare the two, you can see exactly what you gain, loose or in fact maintain exacyly the same, as the guys here showed me some weeks ago. The XT range is not bad at all on cost and great of course. And there is not doubt that 3x10 is too many. But like you say, enjoy no matter what!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 13:50:40 GMT
Yeah, you know your own mind-but I have to say that since going from 2x10 on the Chief I've now only got a single ring on all 3 bikes (SS, 1x10 and 1x10 plus 42 pussy cog). These 3 bikes (especially the 1x10 and the soon to be 1x11) cover any ride I want to do - the bonus is as well the ease of maintaining the BB area, the easier cleaning and the losing of a shifter from the left side of the bars.
I'll never go back.
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Post by Chopper on Jan 27, 2016 20:02:32 GMT
Since the 1x revolution started us mountain bikers have shaken off the shackles that road bikes put upon us, no front mech, we just don't need it, for me mountain bikes are coming into thier own in recent years, first it was going 2x9 speed ring up front, then 2x10 speed, then 1x11, then came the wheel size thing, mountain bikes only had 26 inch wheels because that was what was around when they were invented Waaaaayyyy back, Dropper seatposts are for me such a big thing now that i wouldn't be without one......manufacturers thankfully are going over bikes with a critical eye now, what can we do to improve things...it's now common knowledge that the geometry of the bike is what makes it handle so well,or doesn't...... head angle , seat angle, bb height, chainstay length etc etc, all these things are crucial really.... bike companies are really pushing it as to what works best, testing testing testing all the time,
To get back to the 1x11 thing, i have it on my bike and i absolutely love it, so bloody simple, one gear lever, gears from the smallest you need to the biggest you need, just go right to the top mate, no messing around, the 2x thing is just soooo 3 yrs ago, you won't regret it, for a while you might be looking for that wee lever next to your left thumb but you'll get used to it's absence quickly, one of the best things that's happened to us in my opinion is getting rid of that clang clang clang from our gears, now....silence is golden
Have i convinced you yet ?
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Post by andy4d on Jan 27, 2016 20:35:07 GMT
Since the 1x revolution started us mountain bikers have shaken off the shackles that road bikes put upon us, no front mech, we just don't need it, for me mountain bikes are coming into thier own in recent years, first it was going 2x9 speed ring up front, then 2x10 speed, then 1x11, then came the wheel size thing, mountain bikes only had 26 inch wheels because that was what was around when they were invented Waaaaayyyy back, Dropper seatposts are for me such a big thing now that i wouldn't be without one......manufacturers thankfully are going over bikes with a critical eye now, what can we do to improve things...it's now common knowledge that the geometry of the bike is what makes it handle so well,or doesn't...... head angle , seat angle, bb height, chainstay length etc etc, all these things are crucial really.... bike companies are really pushing it as to what works best, testing testing testing all the time, To get back to the 1x11 thing, i have it on my bike and i absolutely love it, so bloody simple, one gear lever, gears from the smallest you need to the biggest you need, just go right to the top mate, no messing around, the 2x thing is just soooo 3 yrs ago, you won't regret it, for a while you might be looking for that wee lever next to your left thumb but you'll get used to it's absence quickly, one of the best things that's happened to us in my opinion is getting rid of that clang clang clang from our gears, now....silence is golden Have i convinced you yet ? I have been convinced for a while chopper , just cant stretch to it for now. If I hate it, its a £150 lesson and wasted birthday pressie! I am planning a new bike next year (hopefully) so dont want to invest too much in this bike for now and just fancy trying something new (to me) to keep me interested this season and make it a bit better bike. I like fettling and how could I possibly tell others to go 1x11 and not 2x10 unless I have been daft enough to try it myself .Hopefully the next bike will have BOOST 1x14 electronic shifting with 28" rims and run flat tyres on inverted suspension just as 4x7 becomes the big thing. |
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Post by steormy on Feb 1, 2016 20:55:47 GMT
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Post by andy4d on Feb 1, 2016 21:53:37 GMT
That is a crackin deal that is. But I am happy with my old fashioned 2x10. Got the cranks,brakes and front derailleur today. Just waiting on the cassette and chain from zee Germans
The wife just wouldn't sanction 1x11. But I am happy with my lot.
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