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Post by cbm on Feb 11, 2016 20:57:49 GMT
been told that only type that can be fitted ( other than£300 wireless control) is one with control under the saddle - any ideas
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Post by windysurfer on Feb 11, 2016 21:07:11 GMT
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Post by dirkpitt74 on Feb 11, 2016 21:38:31 GMT
When you say 'control under the saddle' do you mean external cable routing or actual handle/lever under the saddle?
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Post by Rlo80 on Feb 11, 2016 22:18:21 GMT
I would think any dropper with the right seatpost diameter would fit. I assume what you mean is that you can't have a stealth version and will need and external routed version, which you don't have cable guides on the frame for. Just buy a mechanical, cable operated one and use some cable ties, tied up to other cables.
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Post by notsarkyadam on Feb 12, 2016 7:02:59 GMT
KS do half decent "lever under the seats"....
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Post by Jimbo on Feb 12, 2016 8:39:33 GMT
I have the Scott Spark 740 and use a reverb and routed the cable underneath the top tube to the handle bars
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Post by cbm on Feb 12, 2016 12:46:49 GMT
Thanks all - as usual in my dotage did not explain properly Meant to say have been told could not have dropper post with control on bars - only under saddle which I don't think I could cope with as seat down now usually coincides with me hanging on to both grips to avoid or rather delay the inevitable catastrophe So is best idea cheap/ reasonable post and cable ties under top frame to get to bars
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Post by Jimbo on Feb 12, 2016 12:50:06 GMT
cbm is your bike the one in Hodgy's pictures? As I said I have the reverb with the control on the right hand side of the bars. It does add another cable to the already very busy cockpit but it's controllable on the move.
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Post by Rlo80 on Feb 12, 2016 13:11:44 GMT
Thanks all - as usual in my dotage did not explain properly Meant to say have been told could not have dropper post with control on bars That's ridiculous...of course you can?! what you can't have is an internal routed version...i agree with you on the "under-the-saddle" remote...it removes a lot of the benefits. However, the Spark is more of a XC racing machine...not really dropper orientated... Don't get me wrong...i had one on my HT which has a similar geometry to the Spark...of course it will help a lot on your riding and for me it is one of those items i will always have.
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Post by roundie1981 on Feb 12, 2016 13:37:49 GMT
Thanks all - as usual in my dotage did not explain properly Meant to say have been told could not have dropper post with control on bars That's ridiculous...of course you can?! what you can't have is an internal routed version...i agree with you on the "under-the-saddle" remote...it removes a lot of the benefits. However, the Spark is more of a XC racing machine...not really dropper orientated... Surely any bike can have a dropper, I had one on my anthem which I believe is quite similar to the spark. It changed the bike for the better in my opinion
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Post by dirkpitt74 on Feb 12, 2016 13:50:45 GMT
My XC oriented HT has a dropper - makes a difference! I've got the KS/exaform eTen linked at the top of the page - really good value. Yes the bars look a bit crowded, but I put my remote between brake and shifter as I two finger brake which meant I could create a bit of space. Once you apply a bit of logic to where you want the remote it isn't an issue. Have you got any cables running along the top tube? if so just cable tie the dropper cable to them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 20:10:11 GMT
I'm with Dirk - my Zero HT has a dropper too, wouldn't be without one now.
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Post by hodgy on Feb 12, 2016 20:16:29 GMT
I'm still not thinking of getting one..but as a matter of interest does anyone know if any dropper post would be compatible with an I-beam saddle ?
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Post by cbm on Feb 12, 2016 21:37:06 GMT
Thanks all - yes bike as Hodgies pictures - will take photos and post Did Innerleithen cross country course with seat locked in high position- scared slightly out of my tiny dementia mind on Cardon Bank but unbelievable fun
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Post by Jimbo on Feb 12, 2016 21:38:58 GMT
Spark may be Xc but is more than capable on the trail dh sections imo. Wouldn't be without my dropper
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Post by notsarkyadam on Feb 13, 2016 10:58:20 GMT
Just the head angle is of concern on XC machines... DH bikes are a lot slacker to keep the Gemoetry more stable on decents... Droppers are useful on most mountain bikes IMO...
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Post by Rlo80 on Feb 13, 2016 11:21:46 GMT
I've edited my initial comment, but just to clarify, i also believe droppers are useful on all bikes and i actually believe that you don't need more than 120mm travel for the vast majority of trails. I think the Spark is an excellent bike and one that I've considered before. I had a Scott Scale and a Van Nicholas Tuareg, both XC racing orientated, and both had droppers...however i was using the bikes for slightly different use than what they are supposed to be used for...as light as possible bikes to take you from A to B in the fastest time. We all know they geometry is not orientated for big drops, descents, etc. However, of course a dropper helps any bike and i could not ride without one now because I'm sure it saved me from falling in some instances.
Cbm, on a recent thread here regarding droppers we came to the conclusions: - droppers are great and change your riding for the better...when you try you will never go back - they can be quite problematic, and can be unreliable...they are a bit hit-and-miss...some droppers last years without problems, but others of the same brand can be a pain - cable operated are usually the most reliable - RockShox Reverbs are usually seen as the most problematic...but i also think its because they are the most common ones...however they have an excellent warranty and replacement policy and quick turn-around...require bleeding from time to time - Gravity post seems to be the most reliable...but has a face only a mother could love...Thomson and KS Lev have good reputation but are pricey.
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Post by notsarkyadam on Feb 13, 2016 12:58:32 GMT
I wouldn't agree with Reverbs being the most problematic at all, they're the most popular, and sell probably 5x more than any seat-post. All of them have had issues.. But not all are as Massey produced as the Reverb... I have 4 of them, and never had an issue. I snapped a lever off in a crash once.. But that was my fault.
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Post by Rlo80 on Feb 13, 2016 14:09:08 GMT
That's what I meant! You tend to hear a lot of problems with Reverbs, but I think it's because they have sold a lot more than other brands, specially because they come standard on loads of bikes, unlike others!
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Post by dirkpitt74 on Feb 13, 2016 17:23:19 GMT
My eTen might not be the lightest (steel open bath damper) but so far I've been impressed. And for around £90 it could 'almost' be classed as a consumable item. Servicing of it will be around £50.
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