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Post by jbell311 on Mar 31, 2016 14:24:08 GMT
Afternoon all,
Been looking at both the heckler and Bronson and cannot make my mind up, any of you out there have either of the 2016 models
Also capabilities of the heckler ?, found good reviews on Bronson but struggling to find any reviews on the heckler
Thanks in advance and hope you can help me decide
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Post by notsarkyadam on Mar 31, 2016 15:56:14 GMT
Bronson
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Post by timbo on Mar 31, 2016 16:14:49 GMT
Bronson is probably the more logical choice, though i find vpp lifeless and regardless of the warranty, bearing changes are a pain.
Heckler wont pedal as well, wont be as quick, but you may (might be rose tinted glasses here, its been a while) find it more engaging to ride.
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Post by Cheap as chips on Mar 31, 2016 16:29:01 GMT
Bronson
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 16:51:00 GMT
Breckler. Honson. I don't know, do I?  |
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Post by marsbarman on Mar 31, 2016 16:55:51 GMT
Don't get the Heckler, get a Five  |
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Post by jbell311 on Mar 31, 2016 17:47:01 GMT
Reasons against heckler chaps ?
I do like the Bronson but it's at the maximum I want to spend and just a little concerned it's more than I may need, I believe the servicing is more fiddly on them also ?
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Post by hodgy on Mar 31, 2016 18:07:09 GMT
If you think the Bronson is more than you need then go for the 5010..it's fantastic.
Don't know anything about the Heckler to have an opinion
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Post by andyr on Mar 31, 2016 18:26:46 GMT
The heckler is the single pivot version of the bronson. Simpler design, less to go wrong but i prefer vpp. Just feels nicer to me. If you do get one of them I advise just getting the frame then buying all the other bits separately from crc/merlin, etc. You'll save yourself a fair whack over a full bike.
General servicing vpp is easy but changing the bearings when they go is a ballache as I found out. Even with all the proper tools it's easier to get someone else to do it. Trust me.
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Post by jbell311 on Mar 31, 2016 18:43:58 GMT
5010 now we have another swerve ball lol, I have been mulling over the other 2 for days.
Where do you
Pitch the 5010 in against the other 2, also from parts point of view also
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Post by jbell311 on Mar 31, 2016 19:02:23 GMT
I come from a motocross back ground which I competed for many years, some time since I rode pintail bikes however I still feel i have good control of a mountain bike, I like to out see the great outdoors trail ride, bits of dh but I ain't looking or the type of air I used to get on an mx bike. Want to also use for the short
Ride I have to work on and off also, tough decision just want to make the rite one with the cash I am parting with
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Post by andyr on Mar 31, 2016 19:07:31 GMT
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Post by kirky72 on Mar 31, 2016 20:01:05 GMT
I thought they hade fazed the heckler out so obvs didn't think enough of it to bother updating like they have the bronson and 5010. If you want a one bike does all that can be ridden all day but ready for a bit more aggro than I would definitely say bronson. New version mind as they said the older one wallowed into the sag.
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Post by jbell311 on Mar 31, 2016 20:53:27 GMT
Does anyone in her ride a heckler 2016 ?
Also likewise for the bronson, is the base rate Bronson at 3099 worth going for in comparison to the 3099 top spec heckler
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Post by Marmite on Mar 31, 2016 20:56:49 GMT
Demo them pal I'm booked in with Ian to demo a 5010 and nomad in a couple of weeks 5010qasjust so fast the nomad I want to try round the peaks  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 9:00:09 GMT
New bike time Gaz?
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Post by jbell311 on Apr 1, 2016 9:45:55 GMT
Anyone of you guys on here ride both bikes in question ?
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Post by Rlo80 on Apr 1, 2016 10:19:08 GMT
Anyone of you guys on here ride both bikes in question ? I think, besides what people say, you need to try them both yourself just to be sure! And understand exactly which one suits your rides mostly... |
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Post by typer on Apr 4, 2016 9:42:40 GMT
The heckler is the single pivot version of the bronson. Simpler design, less to go wrong but i prefer vpp. Just feels nicer to me. If you do get one of them I advise just getting the frame then buying all the other bits separately from crc/merlin, etc. You'll save yourself a fair whack over a full bike. General servicing vpp is easy but changing the bearings when they go is a ballache as I found out. Even with all the proper tools it's easier to get someone else to do it. Trust me. Or you could buy the base spec complete Bronson from Stif for £3099 and strip everything from the frame and sell it. It's a no brainer IMO as the frame retails at 2800 alone. Yes it's only the C frame and not the CC but would that really bother you? |
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Post by typer on Apr 5, 2016 20:22:48 GMT
Definitely a good idea, you'd easily make some money back plus an overall saving on the frame. Then just add the components you want and jobs a good'un  |
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Post by rossco832 on Apr 5, 2016 21:00:43 GMT
My brother is talking about this with the Spectral there is only £300 difference between the Frame and the lowest spec model so he would make his money back
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