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Post by ktmfiveforty on Oct 16, 2016 19:15:57 GMT
I must be one of the very few that haven't gone tubless to date, and TBH, don't have any plans to in the near future .. however, I have been considering putting "Stans" in the tubes and trying it ..
For your basic thorn stabs it should work fine I guess which is as much as I'd expect from it really, anyone on here running sealant in tubes ? and is it worth bothering with ?  |
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Oct 16, 2016 19:33:15 GMT
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Post by hodgy on Oct 16, 2016 19:33:15 GMT
I'm trying to go tubless...but I'm stuck at the moment having lost about 14lbs ( I put a couple back on ...)haha
To be honest though ..wouldn't that make your wheels really heavy ?
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Oct 16, 2016 19:53:54 GMT
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Post by kirky72 on Oct 16, 2016 19:53:54 GMT
Sealant I'm your tubes is only helping to prevent thorn type pun tyres a shout said but adding more weight were it matters.
Missing the benefits of lowering your weight, better feel and grip and further puncture resistance through better snake bite puncture resistance by not removing your tubes.
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Oct 16, 2016 19:53:59 GMT
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Post by andy4d on Oct 16, 2016 19:53:59 GMT
I still use tubes, mainly cos my rims won't allow tubeless.
Is this not just the same idea as the 'slime' you can buy in Halfords?
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Post by glynnsixo on Oct 16, 2016 19:59:37 GMT
sorry john ...didnt get any of that
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Oct 16, 2016 20:05:37 GMT
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Post by hodgy on Oct 16, 2016 20:05:37 GMT
I think he's had a day on the drink Glynn ..dont encourage him ..it will only get worse ..
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Oct 16, 2016 20:09:20 GMT
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Post by kirky72 on Oct 16, 2016 20:09:20 GMT
Oops. Time for a lemsip I think.
Meant to say it's misses most of the supposed benefits by adding sealant to the tube rather than removing them.
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Post by Rlo80 on Oct 16, 2016 20:21:15 GMT
Just buy tubes with slime inside...however, like others said, tubeless is not just about the lack of small punctures or snake bites, weight savings...its more than that.
I think it makes a big difference and if you have the rims for it and the tyres (even though you don't always need tubeless ready ones anyway) i can't see why not?! Once done properly and you try it, you will never go back.
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Post by ktmfiveforty on Oct 17, 2016 18:12:42 GMT
Oops. Time for a lemsip I think. Meant to say it's misses most of the supposed benefits by adding sealant to the tube rather than removing them.
How'dya figure that ? ... all I'm after is better puncture resistance  which is surely the main reason for the whole idea .. ?
I don't really buy into the weight loss, unsprung weight saving, lower pressures blah blah .. the suspension and tyre pressures work fine for me on my bikes TBH, but the thought of not havin to remove a wheel/tube in the pissin rain trailside is quite appealing 
The rims are supposedly tubeless on the Mega, tho when I swapped the rear tire, the rim tape must have put on by Stevie Wonder!! and if that could seal under pressure I'd eat my own foot 
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Post by ktmfiveforty on Oct 17, 2016 18:14:15 GMT
I'm trying to go tubless...but I'm stuck at the moment having lost about 14lbs ( I put a couple back on ...)haha To be honest though ..wouldn't that make your wheels really heavy ?
 ... smartarse 
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Post by kirky72 on Oct 17, 2016 19:39:21 GMT
By adding sealant to the tube it's only going to potentially save the smaller cuts, I would also be concerned if a thorn, nail etc whatever had penetrated the tyre and punctured the tube may also still be in the tyre will only lead to more punctures in the tube or ripping it bigger.
I was really meaning the grip and shape benefits along with the biggest tangible benefit of lower rolling Weight.
If you want to put fluid in your tubes then there are some for sale that already have the fluid added. I would expect these are mainly bought those people that don't have tubeles rims.
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Post by dirkpitt74 on Oct 18, 2016 8:24:48 GMT
I tried tubeless when I had my new wheels/tyres - I gave up after an hour of trying to get the tyre to seal.
I had to put 60psi in to get the tyre to seat properly with the tube.
I've stuck with tubes for the time being but may give it another bash - will try it on the HT I think as the tyres seat a bit easier on the Mavic rims.
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Post by danthor on Oct 18, 2016 10:46:51 GMT
Cant fault tubeless set up here. I changed tires for the first time ever at the weekend and had no issues at all getting them on or getting them to seat properly....or so i think they are seated properly.
The only problem i had was putting the front tire on the wrong way and havaing to take it off and do it again.
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Oct 18, 2016 11:16:56 GMT
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Post by hodgy on Oct 18, 2016 11:16:56 GMT
I'm about to throw my rear wheel through the window ...my problem is trying to get the fu**ing tyre off the rim ..
I'll say one thing for Stans sealant ...it does stick like dog shit to a blanket ..
Any tips ?
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Oct 18, 2016 12:05:02 GMT
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Post by hodgy on Oct 18, 2016 12:05:02 GMT
Now sorted ..however it does throw up that should you have the same kind of problems while out riding where fitting a tube is the only option left ...you will probably die of hypothermia before you unseal/seat the tyre..
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Post by Jimbo on Oct 18, 2016 13:44:45 GMT
Now sorted ..however it does throw up that should you have the same kind of problems while out riding where fitting a tube is the only option left ...you will probably die of hypothermia before you unseal/seat the tyre.. time to add some more tools to your ruck sack |
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Post by dirkpitt74 on Oct 18, 2016 15:08:11 GMT
Now sorted ..however it does throw up that should you have the same kind of problems while out riding where fitting a tube is the only option left ...you will probably die of hypothermia before you unseal/seat the tyre.. time to add some more tools to your ruck sack  |
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Oct 18, 2016 16:12:37 GMT
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Post by scott on Oct 18, 2016 16:12:37 GMT
Now sorted ..however it does throw up that should you have the same kind of problems while out riding where fitting a tube is the only option left ...you will probably die of hypothermia before you unseal/seat the tyre.. Shwalbe tyres? They are a bar stuard to get the final lip of the tyre onto/off the rim. I couldn't imagine the torture of doing that in the cold and rain haha |
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Oct 18, 2016 16:48:53 GMT
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Post by hodgy on Oct 18, 2016 16:48:53 GMT
Wtb ..but still worthy of a ton of expletives ..and should be rebranded wtf!
That crowbar would probably snap Chris !
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Post by windysurfer on Oct 18, 2016 17:25:35 GMT
Are you pushing the tyre into the center of the rim as you feed it on?
Makes things a lot easier
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Oct 18, 2016 17:36:36 GMT
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Post by hodgy on Oct 18, 2016 17:36:36 GMT
Gaz ...I was trying to get it off the rim ..sealed with hard as nails glue methinks
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Post by windysurfer on Oct 18, 2016 17:50:09 GMT
freeing the tyre from the bead?
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Oct 18, 2016 18:03:40 GMT
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Post by kirky72 on Oct 18, 2016 18:03:40 GMT
Gaz ...I was trying to get it off the rim ..sealed with hard as nails glue methinks That's where you are going wrong then. Should be a stand type fluid rather than airfix or super glue. Put the wheel side ways on half deflated and stand on the side wall near to rim. That should shift it if you don't the grip strength or its to stubborn to squeeze it off. |
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Oct 18, 2016 18:04:00 GMT
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Post by hodgy on Oct 18, 2016 18:04:00 GMT
Yep ..unreal!
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Post by ktmfiveforty on Oct 18, 2016 18:04:26 GMT
Now sorted ..however it does throw up that should you have the same kind of problems while out riding where fitting a tube is the only option left ...you will probably die of hypothermia before you unseal/seat the tyre.. time to add some more tools to your ruck sack Yeah ..... a tooooob !! |
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which is surely the main reason for the whole idea .. ?
... smartarse 
