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Post by jgmu97 on Sept 29, 2014 14:02:48 GMT
The times come to get some new rubber for my Hardrock. One of my Continental Rubber Queens gave up the ghost last month. I swapped to Specialized Fast Trak but although they roll really fast and are a great tyre for fast XC, when i point the bike down some trails and ride aggressively, they dont stand up to the abuse. Washed out twice in a week due to the tyres sliding.
Heres my dilemma, before i go spend 50 smackers on some new tyres, i'd like an opinion. I've seen a nice little combo online... Specialized Butcher Control 26x2.3 for the front and Specialized Ground Control for the rear... They seem like decent tyres, but are alot more expensive than my Rubber Queens. They are however, Tubeless ready, so would this mean i'd be able to run a Tubeless set up on my bike? Atm, my rims are not Tubeless ready, and i dont have a clue what i'd need to run the set up, however if theres benefits to be had with one, i may be persuaded...
On the other hand, i could stick with the tried and trusted and get another Rubber Queen and just keep the same combo that i've been running for a while now, which is proven to be good, especially in the wet...
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Post by bettyswollox on Sept 29, 2014 15:00:37 GMT
You might be able to set them up ghetto tubeless, but if it was me, I would stick with what I know...
I've been using conti der barons for 2 years now and wont use anything else
Sometimes I will stick a der kaiser on the back if its really dry, but i use the der barons in all weathers. dont use spikes
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Post by notsarkyadam on Sept 29, 2014 16:39:53 GMT
I personally wasn't impressed with the Spesh ground control. They were loose in the peaks, and were as bad in Cannock. Switched them out for Ardents!
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Post by jgmu97 on Sept 29, 2014 16:48:53 GMT
Thanks Guys!
The reviews i've read both say how they're grippy and a great all round tyre... Controversial!!! In that case, i will go with Richies idea and stick with Contis...
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Post by kalli on Sept 30, 2014 16:12:07 GMT
:)tI have the butcher purgatory combo on both mine and hubbys bikes, no complaints so far
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Post by hodgy on Oct 1, 2014 6:24:11 GMT
As with most of the comments above ..stick with what you know and trust.
I have tubeless rims but the rear has a slight dink and does not hold air at the moment. .. will do a home conversion soon using a split tube ..
In the meantime I am tubeless on the front with a maxxis cross mark and an ardent on the rear ..no complaints
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Post by matthews on Oct 1, 2014 10:40:45 GMT
I've got ground controls front and rear on both bike , tubeless in both cases and think they are great , use them all year with no probs
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Post by notsarkyadam on Oct 1, 2014 16:21:35 GMT
I've got ground controls front and rear on both bike , tubeless in both cases and think they are great , use them all year with no probs I find them utter garbage on fast trails... |
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Post by jgmu97 on Oct 1, 2014 18:29:56 GMT
Thanks again,
Yeah i think i will stick with the Rubber Queens / Trail Kings as they're now called! I just really liked the way they gripped, however i havent ridden on many tyres so im unaware of how they compare to other big brand tyres... Yet to give Maxxis a go either, people rave about some of their tyres.
I'll stick with the Contis for now as the weather becomes shit, i want something i know will grip!
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Post by matthews on Oct 1, 2014 20:32:15 GMT
I've got ground controls front and rear on both bike , tubeless in both cases and think they are great , use them all year with no probs I find them utter garbage on fast trails... What pressure you running , I only run around 25psi and whilst I'm not a trail centre fan I find I have no probs keeping up with most people or overtaking them on my odd visits there, can hit a good 25>30mph on quite a few of the flowing sections of Kirroughtree (the only centre I feel the need to keep returning to ) and have been clocked at 48 in the dales via gps ! Each to there own but for me they grip well in the wet and mud , are fast rolling on the hard stuff and don't dump you unexpectedly when on tarmac , I don't do strava or race but as a general allrounder they fit the bill for me and can usually squeeze 1500 >2k miles out of the rear before it's getting too worn , I run 2.3 up front and 2.1 on the rear btw |
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Post by notsarkyadam on Oct 1, 2014 21:00:25 GMT
Mine are both 2.10's ... Run at about 32 as I'm 16 stones... Let me down in the peaks and Cannock.
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Post by bettyswollox on Oct 1, 2014 21:14:46 GMT
Mine are both 2.10's ... Run at about 32 as I'm 16 stones... Let me down in the peaks and Cannock. Fat bastard |
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Post by notsarkyadam on Oct 2, 2014 5:09:45 GMT
Relaxed muscle mate..
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Post by bettyswollox on Oct 2, 2014 6:20:17 GMT
Lol I'm 17 stone  My legs must weigh at least 10 tho! |
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Post by matthews on Oct 2, 2014 7:20:18 GMT
The tyre debate is all poo anyway , they all tend to work but some suite different peoples stature/riding style better than others , the whole problem is what works for one person is poo for another so it's all down to personal choice , oh and I have 2.1 f & r on the Kona .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 15:14:44 GMT
I agree entirely.
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Post by jgmu97 on Oct 4, 2014 12:00:54 GMT
In the end, i went for a Continental Baron, only the cheap one. Logged onto Halfords at about 1 last night, with a nice online discount, got it for £13.49 and picked it up this morning. It looks like im running a tractor tyre on the front now, the reviews i've read seem good. It looks like it will cope with the mud just fine!
Will hopefully get to test it out next weekend!
Thanks for the help
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Post by bettyswollox on Oct 5, 2014 9:46:57 GMT
Should have got the black chilli ones mate
The Normal ones are a bastard to get on the rim lol
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Post by notsarkyadam on Oct 5, 2014 9:56:10 GMT
They arent that hard... Got them off the 319's with ease!.. Must be certain rims...
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Post by bettyswollox on Oct 5, 2014 9:59:21 GMT
They arent that hard... Got them off the 319's with ease!.. Must be certain rims... Ask stu (typer) lol. He had a nightmare trying to get one on and off yesterday |
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Post by notsarkyadam on Oct 5, 2014 11:01:12 GMT
Must be rims..
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Post by bettyswollox on Oct 5, 2014 11:07:03 GMT
I had same rims and had no problems with the black chilli ones  |
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Post by jgmu97 on Oct 5, 2014 15:43:43 GMT
I was really tempted by the Black Chilli. Especially considering the amount of slippy routes on my local trails! I couldnt really afford to spend that much though. I'm meant to be saving up for a car, and i went and ordered my GoPro this morning
The Baron went on fine, and i had good practice when i got a pinch flat on my ride today. Didn't take to long to get it off, however it wasn't the easiest i've done
Must say, when i got the pressure right, it performed excellent. Just gripped like shit to a blanket, it slides abit but its very predictable. I got a personal best time down one of the trails. They were pretty much perfect, a little muddy but not boggy!
When my GoPro comes, i'll get some footage up. Found an awesome jump line aswell, so sessioned that which was good fun
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Post by bettyswollox on Oct 5, 2014 19:24:30 GMT
I was really tempted by the Black Chilli. Especially considering the amount of slippy routes on my local trails! I couldnt really afford to spend that much though. I'm meant to be saving up for a car, and i went and ordered my GoPro this morning The Baron went on fine, and i had good practice when i got a pinch flat on my ride today. Didn't take to long to get it off, however it wasn't the easiest i've done Must say, when i got the pressure right, it performed excellent. Just gripped like shit to a blanket, it slides abit but its very predictable. I got a personal best time down one of the trails. They were pretty much perfect, a little muddy but not boggy! When my GoPro comes, i'll get some footage up. Found an awesome jump line aswell, so sessioned that which was good fun See, people like you just piss me off more interested in fancy head cams than buying DECENT tyres!!!! Im saving up for a car but I've just gone and bought a go pro. Ffs |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 19:34:57 GMT
I was really tempted by the Black Chilli. Especially considering the amount of slippy routes on my local trails! I couldnt really afford to spend that much though. I'm meant to be saving up for a car, and i went and ordered my GoPro this morning The Baron went on fine, and i had good practice when i got a pinch flat on my ride today. Didn't take to long to get it off, however it wasn't the easiest i've done Must say, when i got the pressure right, it performed excellent. Just gripped like shit to a blanket, it slides abit but its very predictable. I got a personal best time down one of the trails. They were pretty much perfect, a little muddy but not boggy! When my GoPro comes, i'll get some footage up. Found an awesome jump line aswell, so sessioned that which was good fun See, people like you just piss me off more interested in fancy head cams than buying DECENT tyres!!!! Im saving up for a car but I've just gone and bought a go pro. Ffs  |
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