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Post by dirkpitt74 on Oct 21, 2014 9:38:54 GMT
Thinking of trying out a dropper post. Got a mate with an x-fusion post who says it's the best thing he's ever bought.
Currently don't have £100's to spend on bike bits (taking wife & kids to Disney next year....) and have noticed these mentioned on a couple of other forums/facebook pages:
TMARS Remote Adjustable Seat Post 31.6X425mm
Anyone used a mechanical dropper or have experience of these specific ones?
Only other one's that are the RSP Plummet but they're nearly twice the price of the TMARS and will need shimming.
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Post by Jimbo on Oct 21, 2014 9:43:11 GMT
My mate got a mechanical one on offer from leisure lakes earlier this year for about £100, works fine and did play up once which they replaced the part at no cost. Will ask what make it is.
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Post by hodgy on Oct 21, 2014 9:59:20 GMT
Chris ..sorry can't help there ..but if you don't mind could I just pick up on something that you said regarding your mate saying that it was the best thing he had bought for his bike ..not the first time I have heard that to be honest . What I was wondering though is why ?
Am I the only person out there who can live without these things ..I have tried them ..but to be honest I can't say that it made a world of difference to my riding ....if the gradient was really steep enough to warrant me lowering the seat I would probably have stopped to check it out first!
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Post by Jimbo on Oct 21, 2014 10:06:53 GMT
I couldn't see the benefit of having one until i had one. I never used to bother lowering my seat but find the flexibility of it great. Must admit i used it alot more on my HT than I do on my full suss.
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Post by Admin on Oct 21, 2014 10:10:17 GMT
Chris ..sorry can't help there ..but if you don't mind could I just pick up on something that you said regarding your mate saying that it was the best thing he had bought for his bike ..not the first time I have heard that to be honest . What I was wondering though is why ? Am I the only person out there who can live without these things ..I have tried them ..but to be honest I can't say that it made a world of difference to my riding ....if the gradient was really steep enough to warrant me lowering the seat I would probably have stopped to check it out first! Once you got used to the steep bits you wouldn't want to stop, you'd just want to carry on regardless, a dropper allows you to do that, it also allows you to adjust the seat mid ride for when the downs suddenly turn into a steep long uphill section, imo it allows your ride to flow much better. As for the TMARS, I don't know anyone who's used them but have heard mixed reviews on tinterweb. |
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Post by dirkpitt74 on Oct 21, 2014 10:22:59 GMT
My mate was forever stopping to adjust his seat. Tends to do a fair bit of off-piste exploring so lowers for that and then back up for the climbs.
My seat position is a bit half/half would be nice to get it to a nice height for the climbs.
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Post by hodgy on Oct 21, 2014 10:24:13 GMT
Jimbo & Euans
I do get the theory behind a dropper ..but to be honest .. apart from on a really steep downhill run ..how many times on a ride do you really feel the need to hang your arse right back over the rear wheel ?
This might seem strange to say but I prefer to feel the saddle between my legs ..and it's somewhere to rest your chin if it gets that steep ..lol
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Post by Admin on Oct 21, 2014 10:38:42 GMT
Jimbo & Euans I do get the theory behind a dropper ..but to be honest .. apart from on a really steep downhill run ..how many times on a ride do you really feel the need to hang your arse right back over the rear wheel ? This might seem strange to say but I prefer to feel the saddle between my legs ..and it's somewhere to rest your chin if it gets that steep ..lol It really depends, I like to get the bike off the ground and tend to hit as many jumps as possible, last thing I want is a saddle in the way, also, the off piest stuff at Glentress and Inners, you can never have the seat low enough for those, you really do need to be hanging over the back, some sections are almost impossible to walk down. After doing a skills course earlier this year I found that it is almost impossible to get the bike into the right positions with the saddle in the up position, you just can't move the bike around from under you as easily as you can with it down, yes you can still move it good enough for some types of riding but for the more aggressive types you've no chance. |
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Post by Jimbo on Oct 21, 2014 10:57:08 GMT
I do alot of xc stuff so use it more at trail centres and then most downhills. I love to use it to lower the saddle before a stop and it stops me over stretching my calfs, which i have issue with  I probably wouldn't have bought one had it not been a steal 2nd hand via bluearsefly from previous site. Wouldn't be without it now. Could I manage without, yes probably due to my style being less DH. However, even on long road decents i have started to lower the saddle to get a lower wind resistance, if I do this I will go 5kph faster than my heavier mate purely from less wind res! |
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Post by dirkpitt74 on Oct 21, 2014 10:59:23 GMT
Jimbo & Euans I do get the theory behind a dropper ..but to be honest .. apart from on a really steep downhill run ..how many times on a ride do you really feel the need to hang your arse right back over the rear wheel ? This might seem strange to say but I prefer to feel the saddle between my legs ..and it's somewhere to rest your chin if it gets that steep ..lol It really depends, I like to get the bike off the ground and tend to hit as many jumps as possible, last thing I want is a saddle in the way, also, the off piest stuff at Glentress and Inners, you can never have the seat low enough for those, you really do need to be hanging over the back, some sections are almost impossible to walk down. After doing a skills course earlier this year I found that it is almost impossible to get the bike into the right positions with the saddle in the up position, you just can't move the bike around from under you as easily as you can with it down, yes you can still move it good enough for some types of riding but for the more aggressive types you've no chance.Agree with the above. Did a skills course a couple of weeks back - with saddle up some of the steeper stuff was a bit daunting as felt like I wanted to squat a couple more inches but couldn't. And also on some of the red trails would have been nice to have a bit more freedom to move around.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 11:04:01 GMT
I was the same - couldn't see the point until I got the Chief which came with a dropper, wouldn't be without it now. Do a lot of off piste exploring and it's just great to get yer arse lower without faffin when you find a new steep bit. Use it at trail centres too - yesterday on the Donkey it's great when approaching Tom, Dick and Harry to get the post down mid flow.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 11:23:18 GMT
I've got a Reverb on my Mega and, to be honest, can take it or leave it..
The riding I do day to day, I don't think it's essential but it does have it's uses.
We don't get much in the way of jumps on the 'natural' trails at Cannock but by lowering the seat, I can lean the bike
right over around corners which I struggle to do with the seat up.. The nobbles on the side of my tyres are doing what they are meant to do at last.
When I go to Stile Cop (DH tracks) the seat goes down and stays down. Like Euan said, positioning yourself is so much easier with the seat out the way.
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Post by richardm on Oct 21, 2014 18:41:27 GMT
well i have a tmars, and its ok its not as good as my xfusion hilo or my reverb, but it works well. but i did modifie it by drilling another hole to have 4 stop points. one in between the top and first drop but that was just me.
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Post by hughesthedaddy on Oct 21, 2014 21:20:27 GMT
I too have owned a TMARS. Has a lot going for it and I liked it's simplicity but my main issue was that I found it too high on it's highest setting. That might of course not be a problem for some, but then you might not know till you actually have it on the bike to try. I now own a Reverb and it is definitely much better all round than the TMARS. I know you say money is a consideration, but in all honesty, I'd wait till you've got the extra hundred quid and then just get a Reverb.
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Post by dirkpitt74 on Oct 22, 2014 14:23:57 GMT
Thanks guys.
Looks like merlin are doing the Reverb for £150 - might save up the extra pennies!
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Post by Jimbo on Oct 22, 2014 14:33:26 GMT
Thanks guys. Looks like merlin are doing the Reverb for £150 - might save up the extra pennies! worth doing IMO |
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Post by fooman on Oct 22, 2014 15:11:46 GMT
Worth getting just to drop the seatpost when you roll up to junctions
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Post by step on Oct 22, 2014 17:09:51 GMT
Ive got a Mars, its not bad though ive a concern though my saddle is constantly creaking! and ive nearly stripped one of the bolts out for the saddle mount.
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Post by spacemonkey on Oct 23, 2014 20:12:29 GMT
Jimbo & Euans I do get the theory behind a dropper ..but to be honest .. apart from on a really steep downhill run ..how many times on a ride do you really feel the need to hang your arse right back over the rear wheel ? This might seem strange to say but I prefer to feel the saddle between my legs ..and it's somewhere to rest your chin if it gets that steep ..lol Totally with you on this, to me the bike feels all wrong with the seat lowered. |
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Post by dirkpitt74 on Nov 10, 2014 16:43:31 GMT
Bit of a bump. Anyone got/seen the new NUKEPROOF OKLO dropper. Looks to be about £160. Cable operated hydraulic raise/lower. |
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