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Post by barffy on Oct 7, 2014 13:17:46 GMT
I'm thinking of 1x10 with a narrow-wide and expander. What's the best bang for buck? I was thinking a works component narrow wide (Cannock massiv!) and Hope, but they seem very expensive, more than a whole XT cassette! I've also heard they wear out quick.
I'm currently running XT 2x10 cranks, am I going to experience chainline issues with this crank? My main reasoning for wanting to do it is so I can move my dropper remote into a usable position rather than cocked up in the air, with me unable to release my grip enough to locate it on rough stuff(that and all my mates have it).
I'll be keeping all the old bits in case I'm not keen. Sorry for the generic question, I was sure I didn't want to be 1x10 when I built this thing up!
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Post by barffy on Oct 7, 2014 14:47:01 GMT
Is the T-REX the only way to go for the rear?
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Post by Admin on Oct 7, 2014 14:47:01 GMT
I'm thinking of 1x10 with a narrow-wide and expander. What's the best bang for buck? I was thinking a works component narrow wide (Cannock massiv!) and Hope, but they seem very expensive, more than a whole XT cassette! I've also heard they wear out quick. I'm currently running XT 2x10 cranks, am I going to experience chainline issues with this crank? My main reasoning for wanting to do it is so I can move my dropper remote into a usable position rather than cocked up in the air, with me unable to release my grip enough to locate it on rough stuff(t hat and all my mates have it). I'll be keeping all the old bits in case I'm not keen. Sorry for the generic question, I was sure I didn't want to be 1x10 when I built this thing up!I use Works Component chainrings with my 11 speed system, works great and I've not had any issues with wear, IMO the works chainrings look better and retain the chain better due to them having a slightly longer tooth profile XT 2x10 cranks have a slightly different chain line from their 3x10 siblings, I've heard of people having issues with the 2x10's, I used the 3x10 XT cranks and had no issues what so ever |
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Post by barffy on Oct 7, 2014 14:48:59 GMT
Thanks for that EuanS2. I like the idea of supporting a local business too!
Anyone have any experiences converting a 2x10 XT crank?
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Post by Admin on Oct 7, 2014 14:49:28 GMT
Is the T-REX the only way to go for the rear? No, one up components also do a rear conversion, they also offer a new cage which gives better shifting and can also supply a new 16t (I think it's a 16, could be wrong)cog to lessen the jump. |
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Post by richardm on Oct 7, 2014 15:00:57 GMT
one up is a good alterative but still pricy at 90 dolars
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Post by windysurfer on Oct 7, 2014 17:27:28 GMT
O got a one up via an eBay link posted on here for £30 delivered. He doesn't have any at the minute but seems to get them on a regular basis so worth keeping an eye out www.ebay.co.uk/usr/rabz001uk |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 17:41:11 GMT
I've gone one up 42t , fitted a new cassette 11/36 rear , removed the 15t and 17t cog and replaced it with a 16t , not such a big drop..
Plus if your running a med cage , only need to add a couple of extra links to your chain ..
I've put a 32t raceface wide narrow chain ring ..
I can get up most thinks and I'm not that fit, plus dragging a fair bit of lard round ..
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Post by Chopper on Oct 7, 2014 17:41:46 GMT
Do you really need the expander, i went 32t 1x10 and just kept the cassette the same, 12/36, i mean do you ride a lot of really steep hills, i can still get up all the stuff i could get up before i converted no problem, just thinking of your wallet mate, if you really need one then crack on  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 17:43:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 17:46:26 GMT
Do you really need the expander, i went 32t 1x10 and just kept the cassette the same, 12/36, i mean do you ride a lot of really steep hills, i can still get up all the stuff i could get up before i converted no problem, just thinking of your wallet mate, if you really need one then crack on Yes mate I do  And for the peaks I would go 30 on the front or lower .... Im so use to just dropping in the granny ring and spinning up long drags .. |
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Post by Chopper on Oct 7, 2014 17:50:04 GMT
Do you really need the expander, i went 32t 1x10 and just kept the cassette the same, 12/36, i mean do you ride a lot of really steep hills, i can still get up all the stuff i could get up before i converted no problem, just thinking of your wallet mate, if you really need one then crack on Yes mate I do And for the peaks I would go 30 on the front or lower .... Im so use to just dropping in the granny ring and spinning up long drags .. Haha it might look like it was directed at you being the next post after yours but it was directed at barffy....Oops  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 17:53:11 GMT
Yes mate I do And for the peaks I would go 30 on the front or lower .... Im so use to just dropping in the granny ring and spinning up long drags .. Haha i might look like it was directed at you being the next post after yours but it was directed at barffy....Oops Lol I did wonder pone of my mates gets on fine with out it , I just think I would end up with knackered knees .. Be be cheaper if he doesn't need one of try it with out the expander .. |
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Post by Chris on Oct 7, 2014 19:23:44 GMT
Thanks for that EuanS2. I like the idea of supporting a local business too! Anyone have any experiences converting a 2x10 XT crank? I bought a 3x10 XT M770 crank to run 2X10, have since gone 1X10 with a One-Up Comp 42t and a Hope 34t up front and it works great and feels fine, it's just nice to know you've got something in reserve if you need it. You only really need one spacer next to your BB and you'll probably need some of these. Forgot to say, I run an XT 11x36 rear also. |
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Post by jgmu97 on Oct 7, 2014 19:37:23 GMT
I got a Raceface NarrowWide 34 with an 11-36 cassette... Are you sure you need the expander? Saying that, for the cost of buying a short cage rear mech, you may aswell get the expander for the wider range |
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Post by barffy on Oct 8, 2014 7:01:45 GMT
Thanks for all the info guys. Ill definitely want the expander, I don't do pushing and whilst i'm fairly fit I go to lot's of different places with very steep climbs (check out my Wrekin video). So it's a good idea to get a 16t too. Man, this is going to cost!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 7:12:00 GMT
Not really mate, if you can get the same expander with the 16t cog I did it was £30 delivered. In fact by looking around I got a new 11-36 cassette and a new chain as well for £44; so just over £70 all in (I'm staying 2x10 until the chain rings wear out)
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Post by Jimbo on Oct 8, 2014 7:23:02 GMT
Got to say i don't really see the appeal of 1x10. Granted i very rarely use the granny ring but for a weight point of view it's not exactly heavy!
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Post by Nelly on Oct 8, 2014 7:43:43 GMT
for me its looks, simplicity and reliability
I have never had a reliable front mech, they never survive crashes and never seemed to work, I love not having 2 shifters, un clutters the bars when you have a reverb etc
When you add up shifter, cable, 2x chain rings and the mech it weighs a fair bit, throw in a 1x crankset and you save a bit more.
The simplicity of only having one shifter to go up and down saves time fannying around on the trail shifting into grannys and then knocking thorugh the cassette so you don't have such a big jump
You don't actually loose any gears that you would normally use with a decent set up, shouldn't be using the bigger end of the cassette on the big ring and shouldn't be using the smaller end with the granny.
If you need the granny your not going to have enough power in them legs to spin away in the higher end of the cassette so get a 30t chainring and if you never use the lower gears in the granny you can go bigger with a 34/36
1x10 (1x11) clearly works as manufacturers are now designing bikes without anywhere to mount a front mech
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 7:45:13 GMT
I didn't do it for the weight Jimbo - it was the simplicity that appealed. One less shifter, much easier to clean and maintain and looks a load better too. I did struggle in Wales with it on the Cube but the expander will be a godsend!
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Post by barffy on Oct 8, 2014 10:03:19 GMT
I want to do it just because My reverb is so awkward to use as is. I have hope Tech 3 brakes with i-spec B XT shifters. The way they sit means it's impossible to get the reverb remote to sit anywhere other than cocked right up in the air so A. I cant flip the bike over and B. it's very hard to reach with my child like thumbs!
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Post by barffy on Oct 8, 2014 11:49:38 GMT
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Post by Jimbo on Oct 8, 2014 13:38:25 GMT
for me its looks, simplicity and reliability I have never had a reliable front mech, they never survive crashes and never seemed to work, I love not having 2 shifters, un clutters the bars when you have a reverb etc When you add up shifter, cable, 2x chain rings and the mech it weighs a fair bit, throw in a 1x crankset and you save a bit more. The simplicity of only having one shifter to go up and down saves time fannying around on the trail shifting into grannys and then knocking thorugh the cassette so you don't have such a big jump You don't actually loose any gears that you would normally use with a decent set up, shouldn't be using the bigger end of the cassette on the big ring and shouldn't be using the smaller end with the granny. If you need the granny your not going to have enough power in them legs to spin away in the higher end of the cassette so get a 30t chainring and if you never use the lower gears in the granny you can go bigger with a 34/36 1x10 (1x11) clearly works as manufacturers are now designing bikes without anywhere to mount a front mech Explained like that it makes sense. Don't think I have used the granny ring since I've had this bike not even on the Beast over the Gap! Might consider for future |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 14:59:39 GMT
Fitted my 42t pussy cog and 16t (15t, spacer and 17t cogs gone) with a new chain and 11-36 cassette today - shifts really sweet once set up correctly! On the flat in the 42t and small ring it feels like I've forgot to put the chain on  looking forward to trying it on a hill! |
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Post by notsarkyadam on Oct 8, 2014 16:19:29 GMT
Is the T-REX the only way to go for the rear? No, one up components also do a rear conversion, they also offer a new cage which gives better shifting and can also supply a new 16t (I think it's a 16, could be wrong)cog to lessen the jump. Correct!.... Wouldn't recommend the Hope... Too many shifting issues... Ask Will! |
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And for the peaks I would go 30 on the front or lower .... 
looking forward to trying it on a hill!