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Post by notsarkyadam on Jan 14, 2015 15:27:09 GMT
can you justify a long travel HT? I didn't have you down as an aggressive rider... I'd personally step up the Fatty to number 2.. No, that's a fair point - but I want to be more aggressive and with 140mm forks over 100mm it might encourage me a bit more. Fatty is too 'niche' for me - I want a decent HT that I can take to any trail centre with a bit of confidence it can do it all. I did CYB on an XC Cube with 100mm but I didn't like it much  I'm not very aggressive (or much good on a bike, tbf) but I'm going to do a skills course this year to maybe give me a bit more belief in my ability, I think confidence is my biggest problem on a bike. Confident riders are aggressive riders. Yeah I remember your Cube.. What happened to that? i think if you road more places, different terrain.. Your confidence will increase.. Riding Cannock, and skills will just plateau... As you know every line, and every obstacle... You should try and sneak in a peaks ride with Jay, Gaz, Freddy Dibnah and Will (when he's better) and myself... Ride some more natural trails.. |
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Post by notsarkyadam on Jan 14, 2015 15:33:32 GMT
I've got a grand mate - he hasn't given me prices yet (LBs) but I'll be looking at 330 for the LEV ti, about the same for the X Fusions? I've got a spare 11-34 cassette and a chain to bung on (I'll use that and when it wears out get a 11-36) so all I really need is a BB and crank set. I'm not going mad as I said, this is no special build just want a capable, lightish, HT. So say I spend 700 on post and forks, probably another 50 on bits (narrow wide etc) I've got around 200ish to spend on BB and cranks - any suggestions? At a grand you can buy a new HT with decent spec :s 650b also.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 16:51:24 GMT
Can't argue with either post and the on one looks great, but Sram and RS are getting no more of my money, C2W or not. I want to try the Merida frame with half decent kit on it, tbh. As for ability I'm not looking to challenge the Athertons, as long as I enjoy my riding, that's good enough for me. Thanks for the concern though, Dad  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 16:56:31 GMT
I've got a grand mate - he hasn't given me prices yet (LBs) but I'll be looking at 330 for the LEV ti, about the same for the X Fusions? I've got a spare 11-34 cassette and a chain to bung on (I'll use that and when it wears out get a 11-36) so all I really need is a BB and crank set. I'm not going mad as I said, this is no special build just want a capable, lightish, HT. So say I spend 700 on post and forks, probably another 50 on bits (narrow wide etc) I've got around 200ish to spend on BB and cranks - any suggestions? At a grand you can buy a new HT with decent spec :s 650b also.. Good luck getting that built haha. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 17:05:56 GMT
What's that mean Jay? , if you mean the recent shocking build quality off of On One, I hear you. Think I'd rather let Swinno's do up my old Merida, tbf.
Unless I've totally misread that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 17:11:59 GMT
I'm happy that you and Jay have had no probs mate, why would you change something that you like and works well for you, but off the top of me head there is Nelly, Ergaz, me, Kalli, Munky who have all had issues to one degree or another, there maybe others too but as a quick straw poll it'd be interesting. I'm not out to start a crusade against RS this is just a decision I have come to for myself and I won't be rubbishing em either. I hope you all have totally trouble free ownership of your RS shoite err components But to fair to rs they sorted mine out with in a week , one of my mate had the same problem they swopped his out stright away .. You had a lot of trouble with who you got the bike off .. My first one is still going strong after 2years of abuse mate .. Look at the miles I do as well .. And to be fair my rs is up and down more that a prossie knickers .. I still like the way it feels and works (not the pressies knockers )  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 17:16:33 GMT
No, that's a fair point - but I want to be more aggressive and with 140mm forks over 100mm it might encourage me a bit more. Fatty is too 'niche' for me - I want a decent HT that I can take to any trail centre with a bit of confidence it can do it all. I did CYB on an XC Cube with 100mm but I didn't like it much I'm not very aggressive (or much good on a bike, tbf) but I'm going to do a skills course this year to maybe give me a bit more belief in my ability, I think confidence is my biggest problem on a bike. Confident riders are aggressive riders. Yeah I remember your Cube.. What happened to that? i think if you road more places, different terrain.. Your confidence will increase.. Riding Cannock, and skills will just plateau... As you know every line, and every obstacle... You should try and sneak in a peaks ride with Jay, Gaz, Freddy Dibnah and Will (when he's better) and myself... Ride some more natural trails.. Can't beat natural trails can't wait to get back out up there |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 17:18:16 GMT
Sorry Gaz but that's wrong. It never was Rose who argued, it was the Rockshox service people who tried to say I bent the post - Rose Germany were brilliant the whole way through. The only issue with Rose was Finlay, the UK manager who sided with Rockshox when he should have been fighting my corner.
Germany have been great throughout. It was a shame that Finlay let the side down but the original point remains - it was Rockshox UK who originally refused to replace the post...
Having said all that I won't buy from Germany again, but that's more logistics than a customer service thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 17:26:16 GMT
Sorry Gaz but that's wrong. It never was Rose who argued, it was the Rockshox service people who tried to say I bent the post - Rose Germany were brilliant the whole way through. The only issue with Rose was Finlay, the UK manager who sided with Rockshox when he should have been fighting my corner. Germany have been great throughout. It was a shame that Finlay let the side down but the original point remains - it was Rockshox UK who originally refused to replace the post... Having said all that I won't buy from Germany again, but that's more logistics than a customer service thing. Sorry , but your the only one I know who's had a problem getting one swopped out mate .. I would still buy another one |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 17:45:44 GMT
What's that mean Jay? , if you mean the recent shocking build quality off of On One, I hear you. Think I'd rather let Swinno's do up my old Merida, tbf. Unless I've totally misread that. Yeah, that's what I meant. Quality of their builds and the amount of time it takes seems to be a big issue. Stick with your original idea. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 17:51:51 GMT
Sorry Gaz but that's wrong. It never was Rose who argued, it was the Rockshox service people who tried to say I bent the post - Rose Germany were brilliant the whole way through. The only issue with Rose was Finlay, the UK manager who sided with Rockshox when he should have been fighting my corner. Germany have been great throughout. It was a shame that Finlay let the side down but the original point remains - it was Rockshox UK who originally refused to replace the post... Having said all that I won't buy from Germany again, but that's more logistics than a customer service thing. Sorry , but your the only one I know who's had a problem getting one swopped out mate .. I would still buy another one That's fair enough, long may it continue....maybe it was Finlay and not Rockshox - who knows?, but it all comes down to the same thing for me. |
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Post by notsarkyadam on Jan 14, 2015 20:59:03 GMT
What's that mean Jay? , if you mean the recent shocking build quality off of On One, I hear you. Think I'd rather let Swinno's do up my old Merida, tbf. Unless I've totally misread that. Tell them to bang all the parts in box and build it yourself!.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 21:35:33 GMT
What's that mean Jay? , if you mean the recent shocking build quality off of On One, I hear you. Think I'd rather let Swinno's do up my old Merida, tbf. Unless I've totally misread that. Tell them to bang all the parts in box and build it yourself!.. Not a bad idea haha |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 8:37:30 GMT
What's that mean Jay? , if you mean the recent shocking build quality off of On One, I hear you. Think I'd rather let Swinno's do up my old Merida, tbf. Unless I've totally misread that. Tell them to bang all the parts in box and build it yourself!.. The steel 456 you linked looks a great bike tbf - the only thing that puts me off is the silly 30.9 seat post - I'll have a spare 31.6 LEV which I was thinking of chucking on which won't be possible - shame. I've been looking at the Carbon 456 at the same price too, the X5 version - that's got the right seat post for the LEV and is tempting. There's a thing - aren't On One's specs info shoite? doesn't even tell you what brakes are on the carbon 456 X5 version. I've got a lot to think about - doing up the Merida (a frame I know I love) or taking a gamble on one of the 456's. Got some serious thinking to do - thanks for the ideas though. |
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Post by notsarkyadam on Jan 15, 2015 13:42:18 GMT
Yes you seem very attached to the frame, just a little concerned.. That you're trying to turn it into
Something it's not.. Seems like a waste of money to me... But if you're that passionate, it must be worth it...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 14:10:47 GMT
It rides lovely, whether as a SS or a 120mm HT. Even EuroBob and Jay said that on one of our SS jaunts. Only thing ever wrong with it was the weight, due to cheap components. It's a toughie, only I can decide. I know it's not a top named frame and isn't cool, but if you know something works for you, why change it? The 456 are slacker angled it's true, if money was no object then I'd be going for a Cotic or a Stanton - but this way I get a decent, useable HT and an upgrade on my dropper for the Chief. So it's either an One One 456 and no Ti dropper, or a Merida trail frame specced by me and a top of the range LEV for the Chief.  |
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Post by notsarkyadam on Jan 15, 2015 15:54:03 GMT
Why change it? But you are changing it... To a LT HT, the inbred I linked too was on an example of what you could buy with a grand.. I'd personally not worry about droppers, I rarely use my 3, possibly why there still working!... Seems easier to keep the Merida as SS as its proven... And buy a full bike fit for purpose..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 16:00:09 GMT
Why change it? But you are changing it... To a LT HT, the inbred I linked too was on an example of what you could buy with a grand.. I'd personally not worry about droppers, I rarely use my 3, possibly why there still working!... Seems easier to keep the Merida as SS as its proven... And buy a full bike fit for purpose.. I tend to agree with this.. Reading through the previous posts, it comes across that you're only changing to get a dropper!? For months now you've been saying how much you'd love a carbon LT HT and you seemed determined to get the 456 carbon evo. In your position, I'd be worried about spending that money on the Merida but still wanting something else once it was done! If you want to try out a C456, you know you're more than welcome to use mine.. BUY THIS INSTEAD |
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Post by notsarkyadam on Jan 15, 2015 16:19:00 GMT
Why change it? But you are changing it... To a LT HT, the inbred I linked too was on an example of what you could buy with a grand.. I'd personally not worry about droppers, I rarely use my 3, possibly why there still working!... Seems easier to keep the Merida as SS as its proven... And buy a full bike fit for purpose.. I tend to agree with this.. Reading through the previous posts, it comes across that you're only changing to get a dropper!? For months now you've been saying how much you'd love a carbon LT HT and you seemed determined to get the 456 carbon evo. In your position, I'd be worried about spending that money on the Merida but still wanting something else once it was done! If you want to try out a C456, you know you're more than welcome to use mine.. BUY THIS INSTEADIdeally with black forks!.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 16:20:37 GMT
I tend to agree with this.. Reading through the previous posts, it comes across that you're only changing to get a dropper!? For months now you've been saying how much you'd love a carbon LT HT and you seemed determined to get the 456 carbon evo. In your position, I'd be worried about spending that money on the Merida but still wanting something else once it was done! If you want to try out a C456, you know you're more than welcome to use mine.. BUY THIS INSTEADIdeally with black forks!.. Goes without saying.... Not Rockshox though! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 16:22:00 GMT
Damn you and your logical and common sense posts. What I meant was, the Merida felt great at 120mm, all I'm doing is sticking an extra 20mm on the travel, so that shouldn't change the feel of the bike too much? if at all? or if it does it'll feel even better? The Merida Matts was designed as a trails frame and that's how it feels to me, shame it's got the name Merida cos I think it's an underrated frame. With decent kit this will be a cracking trail centre HT - which is all I want, tbh. Merida are massive don't forget and make the frames for Spesh. They even own 49% of spesh. When it's built how I wan't it you'll have to have a goo and tell me what you think. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 16:30:08 GMT
Just saw your post Jay - no, I'm not doing this just to accommodate a dropper! I honestly think to not try the Merida as an out and out trail centre HT is a waste of a decent frame, I've always thought this but it never really occurred to me that I could actually do it through the C2W scheme - you are only supposed to buy full bikes on it now. I do like the carbon 456, a lot, but things have changed a bit since I said I really wanted one  so I'm going to make the Merida into the bike it should have always been if it had come with decent forks and brakes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 16:34:32 GMT
TAKE A TELLING WILL YA... FFS  In your position, I'd keep the Merida as my SS and invest that C2W money in the 456 (or similar). I've no doubt that the Merida will be a good bike with 140mm on the front but I bet a years salary on a purpose built LT HT being a shit load better! I might be SS less at the moment but it's temporary. My list is as follows:- 1, LT HT (got it) 2, Badass full suss (in progress) 3, Fat bike (before June this year) 4, 29'er SS |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 16:41:41 GMT
TAKE A TELLING WILL YA... FFS In your position, I'd keep the Merida as my SS and invest that C2W money in the 456 (or similar). I've no doubt that the Merida will be a good bike with 140mm on the front but I bet a years salary on a purpose built LT HT being a shit load better! I might be SS less at the moment but it's temporary. My list is as follows:- 1, LT HT (got it) 2, Badass full suss (in progress) 3, Fat bike (before June this year) 4, 29'er SS  I'm 90% decided on what I'm going to do but you pair do know what you are on about (sometimes) and you've put doubts in me bonce now. I'm not sure I could stand the piss taking if I got a SRAM equipped bike though after all that's been said. I need to ponder it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 16:46:34 GMT
At the end of the day mate, you do what you want.
The Merida is a lovely looking frame but I'm not convinced it'll ride so great with 140mm suspension!
Stick your Pikes on it and see lol
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so I'm going to make the Merida into the bike it should have always been if it had come with decent forks and brakes.
I'm 90% decided on what I'm going to do but you pair do know what you are on about (sometimes) and you've put doubts in me bonce now. I'm not sure I could stand the piss taking if I got a SRAM equipped bike though after all that's been said. I need to ponder it.