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Post by kirky72 on Jan 30, 2016 12:46:15 GMT
Yes it makes sense, the river crossing and Delf lane running river single track would be on the home bound stretch as we head back down to the cars. Basically if you look at our last forum ride of a similar route we would start and end at the end of the zig zags from todmorden golf club ending on Halifax road, where we start by climbing up shawwood road, not the nicest start with a stiff hill climb but that always seems to be the case. I'm just a but concerned about the great turning out leading too lots of car parks to find spaces for but hopefully we are early enough and there's other options close by. www.strava.com/activities/369747016
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Post by brakedust on Jan 30, 2016 19:31:41 GMT
Evening gents Thanks for the welcome Apologies not done an intro but will do one soon Met some of you gents on the Swaledale ride and what a good good day out. Smashing bunch of lads Not had my mondraker foxy long so still getting used to it. Hope to cover more rides through the forum and share the experience with more riders Bring it on! Hang on Did I just do my intro? Doh Goats? Don't know what you mean Gone slightly off topic there Manf
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Post by glynnsixo on Jan 30, 2016 19:43:24 GMT
howdo manf, glad youve joined up!
you'll just become one of us!
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Post by adampic2006 on Feb 3, 2016 15:11:37 GMT
Might well be up for this. Poss a couple of mates to. Would be great to meet you all and get some miles in.
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Post by kirky72 on Feb 3, 2016 17:01:57 GMT
I had a ride around part of the proposed loop earlier today, it should normally be the driest part of the loop being mainly hard packed on the MTL and Pennine way. However despite the nice dry relatively bright day it was one of the most miserable rides I've had due to the amount of mud, slush and and snow and constant unavoidable massive crank high puddles of slushy freezing cold water. I've ridden these parts many times in all sorts of rain, hail, snow and gales and this amounted to the worst overall conditions I've experienced solely due to to round conditions.
Heading out of Hurstwood I planned to into Hebden Bridge but got fed up by the time I got to Widdop so just climbed back over and down Gorple road back to the car. My fear is that I know from the condition of these parts that several sections of the proposed route including pretty much everything that you climb back up from hurstwood to the long causeway way for eg Delf lane and the nice little sections back down towards hebden from there will be a write off. Trouble is there was still so much slush and snow that if it thaws it's only going to get wetter along with any more rain that falls between now and the 13th if it freezes then it's going to be like riding the worst bits of the swaledale ride.
I might try and get over next week for a proper recce but I would suggest that it may be a month or two early to hit this route at anything like it's best. It's never dry or perfect but at the moment it's the worst I've seen it.
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Post by Marmite on Feb 3, 2016 17:12:37 GMT
Might well be up for this. Poss a couple of mates to. Would be great to meet you all and get some miles in. More than welcome to joins us
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Post by roundie1981 on Feb 3, 2016 17:16:51 GMT
I had a ride around part of the proposed loop earlier today, it should normally be the driest part of the loop being mainly hard packed on the MTL and Pennine way. However despite the nice dry relatively bright day it was one of the most miserable rides I've had due to the amount of mud, slush and and snow and constant unavoidable massive crank high puddles of slushy freezing cold water. I've ridden these parts many times in all sorts of rain, hail, snow and gales and this amounted to the worst overall conditions I've experienced solely due to to round conditions. Heading out of Hurstwood I planned to into Hebden Bridge but got fed up by the time I got to Widdop so just climbed back over and down Gorple road back to the car. My fear is that I know from the condition of these parts that several sections of the proposed route including pretty much everything that you climb back up from hurstwood to the long causeway way for eg Delf lane and the nice little sections back down towards hebden from there will be a write off. Trouble is there was still so much slush and snow that if it thaws it's only going to get wetter along with any more rain that falls between now and the 13th if it freezes then it's going to be like riding the worst bits of the swaledale ride. I might try and get over next week for a proper recce but I would suggest that it may be a month or two early to hit this route at anything like it's best. It's never dry or perfect but at the moment it's the worst I've seen it. That's abit of a shitter mate, was it unrideable?
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Post by windysurfer on Feb 3, 2016 17:20:48 GMT
What you need is a mud guard John I'm riding Widdop-Gorple loop on Friday after work so I'll report back after that but I can't think of any bits that will not be ridable apart from Delph lane section which is always wet but still ridable. I rode Hedben Bridge a couple of Fridays back after heavy rain and most of that was fine. The field crossing after the House of shit had some puddles and was slippy as feck but OK Whats the worst that can happen
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Post by kirky72 on Feb 3, 2016 18:07:20 GMT
Frozen feet like I had today, wettest I've been without it raining or crossing a river.
Not up rideable just nowhere near as enjoyable as it can be and much heavier going than I've ridden it before.
On a positive note the land slip on the Pennine way In front of stoodley pike is passable with a carry for just. 50ft or so to the side of the trail.
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Post by Marmite on Feb 3, 2016 20:14:35 GMT
What you need is a mud guard John I'm riding Widdop-Gorple loop on Friday after work so I'll report back after that but I can't think of any bits that will not be ridable apart from Delph lane section which is always wet but still ridable. I rode Hedben Bridge a couple of Fridays back after heavy rain and most of that was fine. The field crossing after the House of shit had some puddles and was slippy as feck but OK Whats the worst that can happen Be interested to know mate don't mind a slog as its good training cant have hard packed trails all the time mid not guys will need a plan B but before you all start shouting lakes some people are traveling from a far
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Post by windysurfer on Feb 4, 2016 7:47:58 GMT
Anything could happen weather wise in between now and then,the only thing that would make it unridable would be 3 foot of snow so I don't think you need a plan 'B' just yet. After the Tuesdays and last nights ride I'm looking forward to some solid ground to ride on I don't remember a bad bit to be honest
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Post by Marmite on Feb 4, 2016 8:09:04 GMT
Anything could happen weather wise in between now and then,the only thing that would make it unridable would be 3 foot of snow so I don't think you need a plan 'B' just yet. After the Tuesdays and last nights ride I'm looking forward to some solid ground to ride on I don't remember a bad bit to be honest Cool
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Post by kirky72 on Feb 4, 2016 16:29:21 GMT
Anything could happen weather wise in between now and then,the only thing that would make it unridable would be 3 foot of snow so I don't think you need a plan 'B' just yet. After the Tuesdays and last nights ride I'm looking forward to some solid ground to ride on I don't remember a bad bit to be honest I just meant the icy bits mate, there was lots of bad impressions of Robin Cousins going on.
If its bad we could look at an amendment to the route to miss delf lane by turning right at the end of Gorple road descent up past Swindon water to Ridealgh lane, some nice climbs and a couple of good downs, then back down Ridealgh road across Gorple lower over Blackshaw head and down Colden road through the woods (good long descent) all firmer ground. Most likely ups the climbing a good bit and a few extra miles, I will plot it out and check as an alternative should we need it.
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Post by kirky72 on Feb 5, 2016 17:37:42 GMT
Did you get over to Hebden Bridge today Gareth, did you try Delf lane if you did how was it?
Also was that you honking at me from a camper van as I was pedalling towards Whalley Just before the dual carriageway? I thought it was but then wondered why you would be going to work so late and in the camper?
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Post by windysurfer on Feb 5, 2016 18:27:01 GMT
Only did Gorple loop as it is blowing a gale and pissing it down. Set off from Hurstwood up towards long causeway, stream crossing is currently deeper than my bottom bracket. Bridleways have standing water but I've ridden them when they've been worst,certainly not as bad as the Peaks bridleways. Delph Lane is going to be wet but it always is and it's easy to bypass if needed. Just hope the weather is a bit better than today.Wind AND rain is always going to make the ride a bit tougher.
It's wasn't me in the camper
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Post by kirky72 on Feb 5, 2016 19:44:42 GMT
How would you by pass delft lane. Do you mean head up dukes cut. It would seem a shame to climb up to the windmills to end up going back that way and down colden. I think the right from gorrple road with a couple of descents along the way and back down ridealgh lane to gorrple and over may be better.
Now I'm curious about the guy beeping and waving to me from the camper van. Perhaps he just thought I shouldn't have been going down that carriageway.
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Post by kirky72 on Feb 5, 2016 19:48:18 GMT
Ps it was windy.
I had an head wind heading towards Clitheroe so though I would have a tail wind when I needed it most on my last 8 miles after looping through the trough of Bowland.
No such lucy know it changed so I had an even stronger head wind on the homeward stretch.
I managed to twist my knee slipping of a pedal when I was clipped and trying to push away up a steep hill. Rode home with one leg doing all pushing.
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Post by windysurfer on Feb 5, 2016 19:59:53 GMT
Turn right opposite Dukes cut,down Eastwood rd and then pick up the original route, it would cut all the really wet stuff out if thats what people want to do. Myself I'd just rather ride Delph lane
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Post by kirky72 on Feb 5, 2016 22:12:31 GMT
ive plotted the full route with Stoodley, Peckets well, Gorple to Hurstwood (sealskins required to head upto the windmills) down delf lane, basically Marmites suggested route with Peckets well added and some more interesting cheeky bits before climbing up to Widdop. ridewithgps.com/routes/12071405My alternative below to miss Delf lane turned out to be a tad too long and more climbing, may save it for training later in the year before attempting the MTL. ridewithgps.com/routes/12071318
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Post by Marmite on Feb 6, 2016 21:22:40 GMT
ive plotted the full route with Stoodley, Peckets well, Gorple to Hurstwood (sealskins required to head upto the windmills) down delf lane, basically Marmites suggested route with Peckets well added and some more interesting cheeky bits before climbing up to Widdop. ridewithgps.com/routes/12071405My alternative below to miss Delf lane turned out to be a tad too long and more climbing, may save it for training later in the year before attempting the MTL. ridewithgps.com/routes/12071318Looking forward to this one going to be a good hard slog .. Will need to confirm where we are meeting so everyone knows .
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Post by kirky72 on Feb 6, 2016 21:43:47 GMT
Lay by either side of the road juat after Shaw wood road heading away from town. Another half dozen spaces in a small park just a bit further down the road.
I will try and snippet a photo of the area marked up.
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Post by Marmite on Feb 6, 2016 21:48:20 GMT
Lay by either side of the road juat after Shaw wood road heading away from town. Another half dozen spaces in a small park just a bit further down the road. I will try and snippet a photo of the area marked up. I'm sure there a post code will have a look as that will be easy for the lads to find
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Post by kirky72 on Feb 6, 2016 21:55:22 GMT
I put a post code up before, a few poats back, which is taken from a business that is just over the canal at the start of Shaw wood road.
It's at the start and end point of the route I put up on Friday.
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Post by Marmite on Feb 6, 2016 22:29:57 GMT
This one .. Lay by on the A646 just passed shaw wood road..
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Post by kirky72 on Feb 6, 2016 22:56:09 GMT
Near enough, there's a lay by just after the turn off on the main road. The larger parking area is across the other side of main road from your marker.
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