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Post by Admin on Nov 12, 2014 17:17:34 GMT
So, talking of money pits... What rims do you all suggest? DT Swiss EX1501, Mavic Crossmax XL, SRAM Rail 50, all seem to be good wheels, If I was buying another wheelset i'd be going for the DT Swiss EX1501 or the XR1501 |
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Post by bettyswollox on Nov 12, 2014 17:23:31 GMT
So, talking of money pits... What rims do you all suggest? DT Swiss EX1501, Mavic Crossmax XL, SRAM Rail 50, all seem to be good wheels, If I was buying another wheelset i'd be going for the DT Swiss EX1501 or the XR1501 whats wrong with hope? |
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Post by Admin on Nov 12, 2014 17:29:43 GMT
DT Swiss EX1501, Mavic Crossmax XL, SRAM Rail 50, all seem to be good wheels, If I was buying another wheelset i'd be going for the DT Swiss EX1501 or the XR1501 whats wrong with hope? Nothing apart from the weight, all the above weigh about 3-400grams less than the equivalent Hope/Flow/Techenduro wheelsets |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 17:38:04 GMT
The hubs will be Chris King.. Just undecided on rims!
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Post by bettyswollox on Nov 12, 2014 17:38:23 GMT
Nothing apart from the weight, all the above weigh about 3-400grams less than the equivalent Hope/Flow/Techenduro wheelsets are you, the average MTBer, going to notice that? don't think so! |
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Post by bettyswollox on Nov 12, 2014 17:39:57 GMT
you probably have a piss that would weigh as much as 400 grams before u get on the bike....
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Post by Admin on Nov 12, 2014 17:43:29 GMT
Nothing apart from the weight, all the above weigh about 3-400grams less than the equivalent Hope/Flow/Techenduro wheelsets are you, the average MTBer, going to notice that? don't think so! Yes, I noticed instantly when I changed from my Hope/Flows to my Crossmaxes, the bike didn't feel as sluggish |
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Post by jgmu97 on Nov 12, 2014 17:55:32 GMT
The Mega wouldn't be my first choice of frame considering you want a bike thats a little different. Look how many are out there at the moment! That being said, they seem to be great frames and the new ones do look alot better (looks wise)
Wheels wise, DT Swiss seem to be the best atm, did you see Gwins tireless run? They're pretty strong wheels!
I'd also be looking at the new XTR 1x11. Not going to cost much more that Saint
Good luck with the build mate, whatever you choose to spec it with, its going to be one hell of a bike!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 18:09:31 GMT
The Mega wouldn't be my first choice of frame considering you want a bike thats a little different. Look how many are out there at the moment! That being said, they seem to be great frames and the new ones do look alot better (looks wise) Wheels wise, DT Swiss seem to be the best atm, did you see Gwins tireless run? They're pretty strong wheels! I'd also be looking at the new XTR 1x11. Not going to cost much more that Saint Good luck with the build mate, whatever you choose to spec it with, its going to be one hell of a bike! I don't want a bike that's different..  |
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Post by Nelly on Nov 12, 2014 18:15:38 GMT
you probably have a piss that would weigh as much as 400 grams before u get on the bike.... Rotational weight is completely different to bike weight, notice massively on weight savings on wheels Cars for example, a bit of weight saved on a fly wheel can be as little as the equivalent of having a crap but can make a massive difference to acceleration |
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Post by bettyswollox on Nov 12, 2014 18:38:16 GMT
are you, the average MTBer, going to notice that? don't think so! Yes, I noticed instantly when I changed from my Hope/Flows to my Crossmaxes, the bike didn't feel as sluggish bet it was in your head nah tbf mate, when I got my mavic/hope wheels as a replacement for my transition wheels, the weight difference was immense, BUT i think it was a bigger weight saving than 400G So i think it's all in your head  |
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Post by bettyswollox on Nov 12, 2014 18:39:33 GMT
you probably have a piss that would weigh as much as 400 grams before u get on the bike.... Rotational weight is completely different to bike weight, notice massively on weight savings on wheels Cars for example, a bit of weight saved on a fly wheel can be as little as the equivalent of having a crap but can make a massive difference to acceleration I know that, I know getting lighter wheels for cars is better (i nearly got some when I wanted to do track days) but IMO 400G isn't a lot. |
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Post by getonyourbike on Nov 12, 2014 20:10:47 GMT
Pike (meant to feel very similar to CCDB and easier to tune)
SRAM 11 speed (X1, X01 or XX1)
SRAM Rail 50 wheels (mine are dent free after 1,600 miles, countless races and the Megavalanche. Can't complain about that)
How can you not have a Reverb Stealth on a bike like that?
SRAM Guide RSC brakes (like and XT/XTR but with far more modulation and are less affected by heat. The Contact Adjustment actually works brilliantly too, unlike Freestroke)
The added bonus with going all SRAM on the gearing, brakes and Reverb is that everything fits together on one clamp and is very neat indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 21:52:02 GMT
Pike (meant to feel very similar to CCDB and easier to tune) SRAM 11 speed (X1, X01 or XX1) SRAM Rail 50 wheels (mine are dent free after 1,600 miles, countless races and the Megavalanche. Can't complain about that) How can you not have a Reverb Stealth on a bike like that? SRAM Guide RSC brakes (like and XT/XTR but with far more modulation and are less affected by heat. The Contact Adjustment actually works brilliantly too, unlike Freestroke) The added bonus with going all SRAM on the gearing, brakes and Reverb is that everything fits together on one clamp and is very neat indeed. Yeah, a Reverb is pretty much a given now.. Would you rate SRAM drivetrain over Shimano? I've never used SRAM.. |
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Post by getonyourbike on Nov 12, 2014 22:05:27 GMT
Pike (meant to feel very similar to CCDB and easier to tune) SRAM 11 speed (X1, X01 or XX1) SRAM Rail 50 wheels (mine are dent free after 1,600 miles, countless races and the Megavalanche. Can't complain about that) How can you not have a Reverb Stealth on a bike like that? SRAM Guide RSC brakes (like and XT/XTR but with far more modulation and are less affected by heat. The Contact Adjustment actually works brilliantly too, unlike Freestroke) The added bonus with going all SRAM on the gearing, brakes and Reverb is that everything fits together on one clamp and is very neat indeed. Yeah, a Reverb is pretty much a given now.. Would you rate SRAM drivetrain over Shimano? I've never used SRAM.. I can't really see past SRAM 11 speed. Universally respected (there's a reason it's on so many complete bikes), lighter than Saint and most other 1x10 drivetrains but you get more range, equivalent to 2 extra gears over 11-36t. Lever feel is really nice as well, but that's more personal. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 22:10:55 GMT
Yeah, a Reverb is pretty much a given now.. Would you rate SRAM drivetrain over Shimano? I've never used SRAM.. I can't really see past SRAM 11 speed. Universally respected (there's a reason it's on so many complete bikes), lighter than Saint and most other 1x10 drivetrains but you get more range, equivalent to 2 extra gears over 11-36t. Lever feel is really nice as well, but that's more personal. I've never even looked at SRAM 11 speed before simply because I've never felt I needed it.. Plus the cost was a factor. It's never been explained to me in the way you just did though.. Maybe it's time to try our some of this SRAM stuff  Have you had any experience with Bos suspension? |
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Post by Admin on Nov 12, 2014 22:34:35 GMT
I can't really see past SRAM 11 speed. Universally respected (there's a reason it's on so many complete bikes), lighter than Saint and most other 1x10 drivetrains but you get more range, equivalent to 2 extra gears over 11-36t. Lever feel is really nice as well, but that's more personal. I've never even looked at SRAM 11 speed before simply because I've never felt I needed it.. Plus the cost was a factor. It's never been explained to me in the way you just did though.. Maybe it's time to try our some of this SRAM stuff Have you had any experience with Bos suspension? its not that expensive if you buy all my old X01 kit |
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Post by notsarkyadam on Nov 12, 2014 23:06:55 GMT
It's just the cost of spares that puts me off ... Quite expensive
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 7:14:36 GMT
It's just the cost of spares that puts me off ... Quite expensive 11 speed stuff does tend to be expensive, you're right. I've just been on CRC to check a few prices.. For a full XX1 drivetrain which includes cranks, chainring, BB, chain, mech, shifter and cassette, I'd be looking at close to £1k. I'm going to check prices on the Shimano XTR 11 speed stuff and see how they compare.. Not too keen on the XTR 11 crankset though :? A plus for Shimano is that (i think) it uses a regular 9/10 speed freehub so there's no need to buy an 11 speed specific wheel.. |
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Post by typer on Nov 13, 2014 8:30:00 GMT
I'm not doubting the XTR 11 speed is good, but I couldn't live with the looks of that crank.......... definitely had a good beating with the ugly stick  |
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Post by notsarkyadam on Nov 13, 2014 8:34:39 GMT
XTR 11 speed does look a little bling, like some ghetto spinner alloys... But think I'd still have it over the SRAM... As Shimano has never let me down!
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Post by Admin on Nov 13, 2014 11:04:10 GMT
XTR 11 speed does look a little bling, like some ghetto spinner alloys... But think I'd still have it over the SRAM... As Shimano has never let me down! I'm the opposite, I've never had any issues with SRAM but have had a Shimano shifter fall apart on me mid ride up the Pentlands leaving me with only front mech shifting and locked in the small cog on the rear, it wasn't a very enjoyable ride after that lol, apart from that I have had no other bad experiences with SRAM or Shimano, these days I wouldn't mind what I put on my bike,they are both as reliable as each other and while both shift different they both have a quality feel about them, the only thing that tips it SRAM is that it has a wider range to play with. |
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Post by notsarkyadam on Nov 13, 2014 11:13:43 GMT
It's always going to be a "what you personally prefer" I don't dislike SRAM... I'm just a Shimano boy!.. When it comes to group sets anyway.. But obviously when hope bring out their cranks.. I'll be a Hope boy!...
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Post by Admin on Nov 13, 2014 11:37:22 GMT
It's always going to be a "what you personally prefer" I don't dislike SRAM... I'm just a Shimano boy!.. When it comes to group sets anyway.. But obviously when hope bring out their cranks.. I'll be a Hope boy!... I think when it comes to cranks i'll always be a Shimano guy (although new bike has SRAM cranks)I've tried various other makes and for one reason or another i've always ended up going back to Shimano. |
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Post by getonyourbike on Nov 13, 2014 16:05:20 GMT
On BOS, I have and wouldn't go there again. A shock took 8 months to be repaired. Service intervals on the fork were bullshit as well.
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